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 I just have Sirach in Greek from bibleworks.  I get something like.....

Death is better than a bitter life and eternal rest than abiding illness.

--
Kelton Graham 
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From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com> 

> Dear Eva, 
> > could you guys translate Sirach 30:17 for me. I translated it and it does 
> > not 
> make since. I do not think the traditional translation makes since eighter 
> > 
> 
> HH: Here is the NRSV, which seems to be a good translation of the Greek OT: 
> 
> Sir. 30:17 Death is better than a life of misery, 
> and eternal sleep than chronic sickness. 
> 
> HH: It makes sense, but I do not agree with it. Sirach is not Scripture 
> and so I don't have to agree with it. 
> 
> Yours, 
> Harold Holmyard 
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Genesis 37:32 (and they sent the coat of many colours and brought it to 
their Father....)

Although Robert Alter does not specify the EXACT hebrew syntax I am assuming 
by his comments on this verse when he remarks that --

"...they had the tunic brought to their Father, note the indirection of 
their approach to Jacob, even more marked in the hebrew syntax..."

that the hebrew syntax that he is referring to is the ...vayishalchu 
et-c'tonet....?
since there is nothing unique in the verb - vayaviu/To Bring - to give him 
reason to suggest this?

Am I right?

Thankyou
Chris Watts.