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  • From: "Clayton Javurek" <javurek AT asu.edu>
  • To: "Ethel Jean (Kowan) Saltz" <macnietspingal AT airmail.net>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Unsunscribe
  • Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:31:28 -0700



Clayton Javurek
E-Mail:javurek AT asu.edu


Sorry, I just only want to unsunscribe from the entire b-hebrew list.

Thank you.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ethel Jean (Kowan) Saltz [mailto:macnietspingal AT airmail.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:25 AM
To: Clayton Javurek
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Common Sense


Sorry you are not on my list. I don't have lists. I have never seen
your name before. Obviously you have given me information about
yourself that you probably don't realize by putting me on your list:)
Be careful for your own sake. Everyone uses Common Sense. There is
such a thing you know. ;) Are you a paid minder?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clayton Javurek" <javurek AT asu.edu>
To: "Ethel Jean (Kowan) Saltz" <macnietspingal AT airmail.net>;
<b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Common Sense



PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME AND MY E-MAIL ADDRESS FROM THIS LIST. Thank you.

Clayton Javurek
E-Mail:javurek AT asu.edu









-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ethel Jean
(Kowan) Saltz
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:39 AM
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [b-hebrew] Common Sense


For me, I've decided that Judaism historically is a documentation of
Common Sense and that's what Y'H'W'H means. In fact, in a recent
article in Jewish World Review there appears to be an article (I haven't
read) that states that Judaism is not a religion. So that debate is now
ongoing, I guess. I don't think it is either. Also there are the
beginnings of saying the Bible (with/without Apocrypha/Koran) is the
oldest ancient history book that exists. I also came to that conclusion
25 years ago. So it's a relief that there are glimpses being published
with this sort of intellectual management. I don't have time to read
every single article in every newletter I get, so I use the lead
statements to justify that I can participate with my own mind. With
blogs abounding, that's what we've got, and thus you get a feel for the
way the Sekhel Ha-Yashar is going. Lots of individual expressions at
last. Out of this talmudic management of the collection of books called
the BIBLE we can all get our own support for our own lives from common
cheap ancient history textbooks.

1. Is it correct to say in Hebrew that Sekhel Ha-Yashar means Common
Sense, as my Webster's New World does?

I've decided to simplify this subject for Common management to the King
James version of TaNaKh. That's because many years ago at the JCC in
Rockville, MD a Rabbi encouraged us to bring in our own bibles and he
said that the King James Version is respected by Jewish scholarship.
I've also decided to use the Lingua Frenca for my initial research
because it is the Lingua Frenca. English is used in many countries to
get a national Common Sense. Earlier in my lifetime, it was divided
between French(literary) and German(scientific). Maybe Hiroshima
changed all that and united the Lingua Frenca because my kids (born
early 1950) didn't have to take foreign languages to get into college. I
can tell you that Hiroshim influenced my management of Common Sense
forever. I can describe the difference the minute we got news about it,
when I was in high school. I'll never forget.

2. I searched "common" and "sense" and as usual for me personally,
the
list was very revealing and I found philosophical ideas in specific
verses that really attracted me to investigate further. Especially the
verse in EcclesiastES.

3. I've always gotten mixed up between EcclesiasTES and EcclesiatiCUS.
I like them both. Isn't it true that it was a close call to get
EcclesiastiCUS included in TaNaKh, just like Job which got included? Is
Ecclesiastes originally in Hebrew? Ecclesiasticus in Greek? Has there
been any which is a separate discussion from now on.

This is the list for searches on "common" and "sense" in King James: So
now I need help. Hebrew experts welcomed for root words. Especially
since in the Lingua Frenca both Adonee and YHWH are translated as "Lord"
for over 2000 years, even in Hebrew ;)

The Holy Bible, King James Version COMMON
Leviticus 4:27

27And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he
doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning
things which ought not to be done, and be guilty;

Numbers 16:29

29If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited
after the visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me.

1 Samuel 21:4

4And the priest answered David, and said, There is no common bread under
mine hand, but there is hallowed bread; if the young men have kept
themselves at least from women.

1 Samuel 21:5

5And David answered the priest, and said unto him, Of a truth women have
been kept from us about these three days, since I came out, and the
vessels of the young men are holy, and the bread is in a manner common,
yea, though it were sanctified this day in the vessel.

Ecclesiastes 6:1

1There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common
among
men:

Jeremiah 26:23

23And they fetched forth Urijah out of Egypt, and brought him unto
Jehoiakim the king; who slew him with the sword, and cast his dead body
into the graves of the common people.

Jeremiah 31:5

5Thou shalt yet plant vines upon the mountains of Samaria: the planters
shall plant, and shall eat them as common things.

Ezekiel 23:42

42And a voice of a multitude being at ease was with her: and with the
men of the common sort were brought Sabeans from the wilderness, which
put bracelets upon their hands, and beautiful crowns upon their heads.

The Holy Bible, King James Version SENSE

Nehemiah 8:8

8So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the
sense, and caused them to understand the reading.



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