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- From: "John B. Senterfitt" <millenia05 AT earthlink.net>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Strange place to find Septuagint
- Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:22:02 -0500
I found this article of interest from the "Libronix Digital Library System"
and it in tern was taken from
"The Complete Guide to Bible Versions".
Until the middle of the twentieth century, the Masoretic manuscripts were the
oldest ones in existence. Then in 1947 and 1948, the year Israel regained its
national independence, there was a phenomenal discovery. A bedouin shepherd
boy found scrolls in a cave west of the Dead Sea. These scrolls, known as the
Dead Sea Scrolls, are dated between 100 B.C. and A.D. 100. They are nearly a
thousand years earlier than any of the Masoretic manuscripts. The Dead Sea
Scrolls contain significant portions of the Old Testament. Every book except
Esther is represented. The largest portions come from the Pentateuch
(especially Deuteronomy—twenty-five manuscripts), the major Prophets
(especially Isaiah—eighteen manuscripts), and Psalms (twenty-seven
manuscripts). The Dead Sea Scrolls also have portions of the ((Septuagint,))
the Targums (an Aramaic translation of the Old Testament), some apocryphal
fragments, and a commentary on Habakkuk. The scribes who made these scrolls
were members of a community of ascetic Jews who lived in Qumran from the
third century B.C. to the first century A.D.
Even though the Dead Sea Scrolls are nearly a thousand years older than the
Masoretic manuscripts, there are not as many significant differences between
the two groups of manuscripts as one would expect. Normally, a thousand years
of copying would have generated thousands of differences in wording. But this
is not the case when one compares most of the Dead Sea Scrolls with the
Masoretic manuscripts. This shows that Jewish scribes for over a millennium
copied one form of the text with extreme fidelity.
To this day, almost all Bible scholars still use the Masoretic Text of the
Hebrew Bible as the authoritative, standard text. At the same time, they make
use of the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as two other important
sources: the ((Septuagint))and the Samaritan Pentateuch (i.e., the Pentateuch
as transcribed and edited by the Samaritans).6 The Masoretic Text with
up-to-date textual notes is published in an edition called Biblia Hebraica
Stuttgartensia.
6 Some of the manuscripts discovered in Qumran, especially two manuscripts of
1 Samuel, show greater affinity with the ((Septuagint)) than with Masoretic
Text; and other manuscripts from Qumran, especially one manuscript of Exodus,
resemble the Samaritan Pentateuch. Thus, there must have been some different
forms of the text other than the one appearing in most of the Dead Sea
Scrolls and then later in the Masoretic manuscripts. However, scholars still
rely, for the most part, on the Masoretic Text and use the other sources as
supplements.
Comfort, Philip Wesley: The Complete Guide to Bible Versions. Wheaton, Ill. :
Living Books, 1991
John B. Senterfitt
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Subject: [b-hebrew] LXX, MT and the NT
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There are examples of quotations in the New Testament that depart from both
the Septuagint and the MT. One such example is found in Acts 2:16-21
wherein the Septuagint is an excellent translation of the Hebrew, except for
perhaps the prepositional use of 'APO' to translate the partitive use of the
Hebrew 'MIN', but the New Testament takes on a uniqueness all of its own.
Without going into all of the details please allow me to say that the
variations do not amount to much. In all, when we look at these data
presented by all variants in the LXX the MT and the NT the population is
clearly less than 10%, which I am certain would be rejected as significant
by any statistical model. If we were then to define a qualitative threshold
of significance as being a word or phrase that changes God's message to man
then we would be quibbling about some fraction of a percent. I really am
scratching my head at this point as to what this lengthy "smoothing
argument" is really all about. Is this argument really in the interest of
discovering truth?
Shalom
Mark Spitsbergen
- [b-hebrew] Strange place to find Septuagint, John B. Senterfitt, 10/17/2006
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