Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear Shoshanna,

> According to the sources that I cited, promising Mashiach, Torah 
> doesn't tell us that Mashiach will atone our sins.  Mashiach will 
> repair Torah observance, that is not atoning.  Mashiach being someone 
> who is resurrected, is also not in the Torah.  Resurrection comes to 
> all or most or many of us (I don't remember the qualifications by 
> heart) AFTER Mashiach.
>  

HH: That's good, Shoshanna. You confirm what Peter said about 
non-Christian Jews and their ideas. Of course Christian Jews see things 
differently. The Messiah's atonement for sin and resurrection are there 
in Hebrew Bible. First century Jews saw this before the name "Christian" 
even existed. The fact that a lot of Jews do not want to see it does not 
change the reality of its presence. Daniel says that the Messiah was cut 
off. He was killed:

Dan. 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, 
but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall 
destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a 
flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and 
in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation 
to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it 
desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be 
poured upon the desolate.

HH: If you start from a decree to rebuild Jerusalem after the Babylonian 
exile and count forward, the Messiah had to be cut off about the time 
that Jesus died:

Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of 
the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the 
Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street 
shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

HH: There were  7 + 62 = 69 weeks of years, or  483 years. The command 
to rebuild Jerusalem is variously understood, but whether it was by 
Cyrus or Artaxerxes, it still leads up to the time of Christ, at which 
point the Messiah was cut off.

HH: Isaiah 53 explains his death as an atonement for sin, since the 
servant of Isaiah is the Davidic king.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard