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Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Samuel 20:12 - And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel
- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Samuel 20:12 - And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel
- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:17:43 -0500
Dear Steven,
1 Samuel 20:12 (KJB)
And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel,
when I have sounded my father about to morrow any time,
or the third day, and, behold, if there be good toward David, and I then send not unto thee, and shew it thee;
"O LORD God of Israel" - the Hebrew is simply 'LORD God of Israel' (YHVH Eloh
Yisrael)
Many translations here follow the Peshitta, which add the word for witness - "as a
witness".
I would prefer this discussion stick with the Hebrew Masoretic text.
Some folks object to the vocative, that Jonathan would not be speaking to God while also speaking to David (or strangely thinking the reader would be confused) ...
So far I do not see any difficulty with the vocative, and it would seem any such objection would have to offer the alternative Hebrew rendering, to specify the vocative
to God, as opposed to what is here. In other words, the Hebrew construction
appears
proper for showing what can be called the double-vocative.
One way of indicating the view that this is less than a direct address to God is in translations that go ... (by) the LORD God of Israel.
Rashi and Kimchi indicate this idea, perhaps as an idiom of sorts. However, I do not know if there are other examples.
Generally the form of the Tetragrammaton for such address includes the bet
prefix,
as in all these verses.
1Kings 1:30 - Even as I sware unto thee by the LORD God of Israel, saying, Assuredly Solomon thy son shall reign after me, and he shall sit upon my throne in my stead; even so will I certainly do this day
1 Kings 2:23
Then king Solomon sware by the LORD, saying, God do so to me, and more also, if Adonijah have not spoken this word against his own life.
1 Kings 1:17
And she said unto him, My lord, thou swarest by the LORD thy God unto thine handmaid, saying,
Assuredly Solomon thy son shall reign after me, and he shall sit upon my throne.
Joshua 9:19
But all the princes said unto all the congregation, We have sworn unto them by the LORD God of Israel:
now therefore we may not touch them.
HH: All the examples are different because they have the verb "swear." The text says that Jonathan is speaking to David, so he does not seem to be speaking to the Lord. Two Hebrew manuscripts have, "As the Lord God of Israel lives, . . . ." The NET Bible thinks the Hebrew might have lost the word "witness" that is in the Syriac text due to homoioteuleton ("same ending"). They say homoioarcton ("same beginning"), but I think they mean the other. The last letter on "witness" would have been the same as the first or last letter in the name "David," the next word. So the theory is that the scribe's eye might have jumped over the word "witness" to "David." But this is speculative. The LXX has the word "knows" after the divine name, and the verb in Hebrew would precede the name. "Knows" would reflect Hebrew letters similar to those in the Hebrew word "witness." Josephus at this point (Antiquities 6.230) has a long paraphrase that seems to reflect both the words, "know" and "witness."
So my sense is that the omission of the bet in 1 Samuel 20:12 supports the double-vocative translation.
HH: Delitsch thought that the initial words "Yahweh, God of Israel" were an invocation. Another possibility, though perhaps unlikely, is anacoluthon. Perhaps Jonathan changed his thought midstream and sort of went back to it at verse 13. He might have started by intending to say, "The Lord God of Israel, may he do thus to Jonathan and may he add if . . . . " But Jonathan may have decided that he needed to explain first what he intended to do before making the self-curse. So he could have stopped after the divine name, switched to describe what he intended to do, and then have mentally returned to the Lord at the beginning of verse 13, repeating the subject because there had been so much space in between. Hebrew will sometimes repeat a subject if there is a lot of intervening material before the verb appears.
Your thoughts.
HH: It's definitely a challenging text.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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[b-hebrew] 1 Samuel 20:12 - And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel,
schmuel, 06/24/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Samuel 20:12 - And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel, Harold Holmyard, 06/24/2006
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