Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

 While the discussion as to whether Ruth was a princess or not 
   continues, one may ask wehether the author of the book
   conceived it as history or not. A clue may be found in the 
   names of  Elimelkh and Ruth's children, namely Mahlon and
   Khilyon.(Already in the seond verse of the first chapter).
   The English translation of the latter names is, roughly, "Sicky"
   and "Finito". And indeed in verse 5 both of these unfortunate
   individuals died. Clearly these are cartoon-like personal 
   names, in contra-distinction to many other symbolic personal 
   names in the HB.
   
    Completely apart frtom the intendeed meaning of Ruth,
   the author is presenting here  a moving historical romance.
   Whether it is based on real historical background cannot at
   present be established.
   
    Like so much else  pertaining to the HB, other interpretations
   are of course possible.
   
    Uri

                
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"Daughters" included both daughters-in-law and=20
granddaughters. Therefore there is no need to posit=20
that Jacob himself had more than the one daughter=20
listed in Scripture.

Karl W. Randolph.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Revdpickrel AT wmconnect.com
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> In a message dated 6/17/2006 1:53:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
> leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il writes:
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> >
> >
> > Dear Anna,
> >
> > I'm not surprised, since I am familiar with this midrash. It is=20
> > based on two things: the mention of "all of Jacob's sons and=20
> > daughters" who tried to comfort him in Gen. 37:35, and the=20
> > assumption that Jacob, who went all the way to Haran to find his=20
> > wife(s), would not have allowed his sons to marry Canaanite women.
> > Such midrashim were "invented" by the rabbis for didactic=20
> > purposes, and were not meant to be taken as "historical fact".=20
> > That later commentators did just that, is a problem that Jewish=20
> > educators have to deal with.
> > What I am surprised at, is that anyone takes the website that you=20
> > got the story from seriously. To me, it looks like a garbled mix=20
> > of mostly nonsense. Please don't let it be your introduction to=20
> > Judaism, if that's what you're looking for.
> >
> >
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> Hi Yigal,
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> I checked the Septuagint and it says, all the sons and the daughters.  Pl=
ural
> sons and daughters.
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> Rev. Doug Pickrel, Litt.D.
> Tejas Valley
> San Antonio, Texas

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