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[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

"These roots don't have an Aramaic -$- in the root, but rather an Aramaic 
-t-.  Note the above word "both."  I think it was clearer in context where
I contrasted the two (Hebrew $/Aramaic t, vs Hebrew $/Aramaic $).

Yitzhak Sapir "
 
   Note: In some cases the Aramaic  "T" is a development from the original  
"Tha" as I mentioned. This also occurrs in other Semitic languages and can be 
clearly noticed in  Palestinian colloquial  Arabic.
 
  Uri


                
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14
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"Continues into the future" suggests that action is going on or starts 
in the present.

Vadim Cherny wrote:

>No, I don't. Please enlighten me.
>It seems to me, I rather stated the contrary, that Hebrew doesn't operate in
>present time, and there are no present time inflections.
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>Vadim Cherny
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>>Do you realize that you have just defined the Hebrew future so that it
>>includes the present?
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>>>>Tense describes the reference time from narrator's point of view.
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>>>>That is to say, future tense must refer to the future from the
>>>>narrator's
>>>>deictic centre, and past tense likewise.
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>>>>Now, narrator's deictic centre might be shifted, and so future tense
>>>>sometimes refers to the past events - from the point of view of the
>>>>reader
>>>>or of narrator's contemporaries. This is still future tense.
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>>>>Does that seem reasonable?
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>>>>SB: Perfectly reasonable. And how many tenses do you recognize?
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>>>qatal - past
>>>weqatal - future. Note common role of waw as reversing device in
>>>qatal/weqatal and hiphil/hophal.
>>>q'tol - imperative
>>>yiqtol - late form of the future tense, derived from imperative
>>>wayiqtol - last form of the past tense, symmetrically modeled upon
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>>>Note its predominant usage to impute the sense of archaic narration.
>>>Hebrew doesn't have present tense, and rightly so: an action is either
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>>>(thus past tense), or continues into the future (thus, FT).  The qotel
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>>>is late and is not really a verb.
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>>>Vadim Cherny
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