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  • From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] RE 2Sam24:1 v. Exo5:1
  • Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:59:59 +0100


Hi George,

The greeater context shows that Moses was afraid to speak and that Aaron was
appointed as his prophet while
Moses acted as The God. Yah told Moses what to say and in turn Moses told
Aaron what to say.
I find it very surprising that you are a supporter of euphemisms such as feet
meaning Moshe's nads while at
the same time insisting on taking subjects and objects to be understood so
strictly and literally.

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Is there any evidence what-so-ever within the Tanakh to support the idea that
angels have no free will?
And that they are created to fulfill a purpose and that they die once they
have fulfilled this purpose?

We see that Yah's purpose for Adam and Eve was to have lots of kids and fill
the earth and not to eat
a certain fruit. They didn't fulfill this purpose but acted on their own free
will. Even the animals
have their own free will and seem to do as they please. Why would lowly
animals have the gift of free
will and glorious cherubim not?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
> ___________
>
> Karl,
>
> The Ex passage makes no sense if it is not understood that it was Moses'
> privates which were touched.

Huh??? For years I had no trouble understanding the verse
without making such an off the wall assumption.

> I don't know offhand where you get the idea
> that angels were supposed to be sexless creatures since Enoch certainly
> portrays them as sexual.

Enoch was and is not authoritative.

> I'm not Peter, however, so I won't argue the
> point with you until the cows come home. Believe what you will since
> you're the one who will miss the significance of the text (and not merely
> with respect to Ex 4.25).
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________

Neither am I ready to argue the subject to the ground. I
was just curious where you got such a strange idea. The
answer, at least as I understand your response, is from an
overactive imagination. At least, there is no textual
evidence for it.

Karl W. Randolph.

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