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- From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh
- Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:01:34 -0400
Hi Harold,
Harold R. Holmyard III wrote:
Alviero Niccacci wrote:
Exod. 3:14a should then be translated: "I will be [first-place, volitive
yiqtol: I promise I will be, i.e. for you] what I was [yiqtol for habitual
past, i.e. or your Fathers]."
HH: To me this is odd translation, taking the same verb and giving it two different interpretations within three words.
You are seeing the neatness of the Niccacci model. To him, the type of clause and the position within the clause are critical to understanding the meaning of a verb form. It would be great, if you would want to learn more about Niccacci to read his "A Neglected Point of Hebrew Syntax: _yiqtol_ and position in the sentence." Liber Anus (1987) 39:310-327. It may be available on the net.
In summary, a yiqtol in first position (the first ehyeh) is volitional, but yiqtol in a dependent clause (the second ehyeh) expresses future or habitual past.
I have studied all the weyiqtols in the Tanakh as a means of testing Niccacci's claims about clause-initial yiqtols and found them to be 98% volitional or ambiguous (IOW only 2% clear counter-examples).
Shalom,
Bryan
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[b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
Kieron Cronin (yahoo), 08/03/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh, Peter Kirk, 08/03/2005
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B. M. Rocine, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
B. M. Rocine, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
Alberto Arena, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
B. M. Rocine, 08/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh, Peter Kirk, 08/05/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh-- its meaning, Uri Hurwitz, 08/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
B. M. Rocine, 08/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
B. M. Rocine, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh, Rolf Furuli, 08/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh, B. M. Rocine, 08/06/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] The translation of ehyeh,
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