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["Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>]

Davidson's grammar shows a series of paradigms on the back pages.

It shows examples of hiphil/hophal lamed-he verbs 3ms imperfect:

YaGLeH, YaaGLeH

It shows examples of hiphil/hopjal pe-guttural verbs 3ms imperfect:

Ya(aMiYD, Yaa(aaMaD

It shows examples of hiphil/hophal ayin-waw verbs 3ms imperfect:

YaaQiYM, YuWQaM

The root HaWaH is irregular in all three of these respects. If we are to 
reconstruct the 3ms imperfect of HWH in a scholarly way we need to apply 
all three rules.

Applying the lamed-he aspect to YHWH we get:

YaHWeH

which is popular in scholoarly circles but shown to be inaccurate.
Applying also the pe-guttural we get:

YaHaWeH

which is trisyllabic but does not agree with the YaHu/YaHo theophoric 
components.
Applying also the ayin-waw it is possible that the extra pe-guttural vowel 
causes 
a change in normal vowelling that would produce something like:

YaHoWeH/YaHuWeH

which is in agreement with both the theophoric components and the 
transliteration

IAOUAI

Any thoughts Peter?

I think we're both wasting our time with the I,You,He theory.

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As with all other verbs instincts would have guided a first language hebrew 
to the correct pronunciation.
This is why the texts never needed a vowel system.

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I'm not so sure.  Whereas Hebrew as a spoken language of daily  intercourse 
ended, it remained the language of religion.  And YHWH is the  most religious 
of words.  The decline in pronouncing YHWH by some segments  of Judaism is 
generally traced to 100 BCE - 100 CE, or thereabouts.
 
"Those who say don't know; those who know don't say."  That phrase  comes to 
mind, though I am sure it was not originally discussing the  Tetragram.   
 
Solomon Landers
 
In a message dated 08/02/2005 10:34:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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The point was that a hebrew up to the 7th century could quite easily  have
pronounced the word by merely viewing the consanantal order.
As the  language died out no-one with that ability  remains.







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I do not wish to belabor the point, but many Jews today read unpointed
(voweless) texts with complete comprehension, and this was the case even 
before
the revival of Hebrew as a spoken language in Israel.

So, would the average  Tsabra instinctively know how to  pronounce YHWH
correctly?

Solomon Landers

In a message dated 08/02/2005 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk writes:

As with all  other verbs instincts would have guided a first language hebrew
to the  correct pronunciation.
This is why the texts never needed a vowel  system.