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- From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- To: Jack Kilmon <jkilmon AT historian.net>, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation
- Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, it is definitely the Aramaic of the Hebrew verb HYH (to be). And
indeed, it may have been an ancestral deity of some early Israelites
originating in the north-west where Aramaic was spoken.
De Moor and others before him consider YHWH a hypocoristicon of a full name
such as *YHWHEL meaning "El is", exactly as the later biblical PN Yehoyakhin
refers to YHWH which had assumed the form of a full name by then.
This suggests in turn that there is no need to regard YHWH as causative in
meaning, and not to derive this from Hifil, which Albright considered here.
Uri
Jack Kilmon <jkilmon AT historian.net> wrote:
" ..it is Aramaic. A
Hiph'il form of HYH is, as far as I know, non-attested. There is an Hafel
of HWH in Daniel 5:12 yhhwh. It is possible that HWH was "proto-Hebrew"
later assimilated as HYH? It is the antiquity I am going for here.
El and Yhwh may have been merged as an hypocoristicon. The Qal of hwh taken
from a TITLE phrase as a hypocoristicon of EL, ala Albright and Cross? A
title like "El causes something to come into
being".
Jack
Jack Kilmon
San Marcos, Texas
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Kilmon" <jkilmon AT historian.net>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Hedrick" <gary AT cjf.org>
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> > Is there any etymological connection between the Tetragrammaton
> > and the idea of "breathing" or "breath"? The Siddur says, "The breathi=
ng of
> > all life praises thy Name," and I'm wondering if this might be more than
> > merely a platitude. Could there be an actual connection between YHVH a=
nd
> > "breath"?
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> First, Gary, there is no "V." There was no vav in Biblical=20
> Hebrew. I don't think there is a connection between yhwh and=20
> "breath."
> Isn't it possible that yhwh is just what it is, the hiph'il of hwh taken
> from a TITLE phrase as a hypocoristicon of EL...
> HYH is Hebrew but the roots being discussed HWH is NOT...it is Aramaic. A
> Hiph'il form of HYH is, as far as I know, non-attested. There is an Hafel
> of HWH in Daniel 5:12 yhhwh. It is possible that HWH was "proto-Hebrew"
> later assimilated as HYH? It is the antiquity I am going for here.
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> El and Yhwh may have been merged as an hypocoristicon. The Qal of=20
> hwh taken from a TITLE phhttp://mail01.mail.com/scripts/mail/sms.mainrase=
as a hypocoristicon of EL, ala=20
> Albright and Cross? A title like "El causes something to come into
> being".
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> Jack
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> Jack Kilmon
> San Marcos, Texas _______________________________________________
Gary & Jack:
According to a theory that from the surviving documents can be neither prov=
en nor disproven, Adam spoke Hebrew in the Garden of Eden. Secondly, accord=
ing to=20
theory, he wrote Genesis 2:45=965:2, in which YHWH is listed as the name of=
God, from the beginning.
Not everyone agrees with that theory, but from surviving records, it can=92=
t be ruled out.
If you want to speculate as to its etymology, it seems to be more closely c=
onnected wtih being than breathing.
Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation,
Jack Kilmon, 05/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation,
Dora Smith, 05/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Jim West, 05/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Shoshanna Walker, 05/04/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Uri Hurwitz, 05/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Jim West, 05/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Karl Randolph, 05/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation, Vadim Cherny, 05/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHVH Derivation,
Dora Smith, 05/04/2005
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