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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive
- Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:15:45 +0100
On 28/08/2004 23:37, Dave Washburn wrote:
...Yes, this is fascinating.
James,
This is fascinating. I have been working for several years on the idea that the construct relation in Hebrew is actually built on a reduced verbal clause, a clause built around what I call a "relator" verb (i.e. one that semantically denotes some sort of relationship). I prefer the term "clause" over "sentence" and hence I usually notate S as Cl, but that's mainly just a quibble over terminology. In any case, what I speculate is
N - V(r) - N --> N(cs) - N
which to me looks a lot like your map above. What do you think?
It reminds me also of the construction using $EL, and forms like $EL.IY "my" which is a one word sentence which can be glossed morpheme by morpheme which-(is)to-me. Here there is an explicit, although much reduced, relative clause. This is very common in modern Hebrew [as $:LIY?], and is found in the HB only in Song of Songs 1:6, 3:7, 8:12, and, with B.:-, Jonah 1:7,12, Eccl. 8:17. And although this is a late Hebrew form, the relative $E- is in fact quite ancient, and comparable with Aramaic D.IY which is a relative pronoun also used as a mark of the genitive.
I wonder if in some sense the construct relation was also understood as an even more abbreviated relative clause in which the relative pronoun has disappeared completely. This would tend to support your hypothesis and James' one.
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[b-hebrew] Species of Genitive,
DrJDPrice, 08/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive,
Dave Washburn, 08/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive,
Peter Kirk, 08/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive, Dave Washburn, 08/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive,
Peter Kirk, 08/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 08/29/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Species of Genitive,
Dave Washburn, 08/28/2004
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