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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [b-hebrew] a climbing or raisin vine?
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:08:43 -0500

To All:

These arguments about times and dates can go on forever because the surviving
records are so fragmentary and assumptions are made that cannot be proven
either way. To top it, there is the possibility of transmission errors to
mess up even the surviving records. I never heard of Rohl before a few days
ago, yet I noticed that there are problems with the standard accepted dates
as well: for example, I think it is possible that the PLST among the Sea
Peoples were Philistine mercenaries who did not want to live under Israeli
control, so when the Sea Peoples were defeated, the PLST were allowed to
return home. The surviving records can’t disporove that theory, nor prove
them, so I see no purpose in arguing the case. So let’s get back to a
linguistic question.

While perusing through Hosea, I noticed )$Y$ &#1488;&#1513;&#1497;&#1513; in
3:1 seems to indicate a vine which in Isaiah 16:7 sounds like a climbing vine
[ )$Y$Y QYR &#1488;&#1513;&#1497;&#1513;&#1497; &#1511;&#1497;&#1512;], as
different from a standard GPN &#1490;&#1508;&#1503; sprawled out on the
ground. From this the ancients made raisin cakes
&#1488;&#1513;&#1497;&#1513;&#1492; mentioned in 2 Samuel 6:19, Song of Songs
2:5 and 1 Chronicles 16:3. The masculine use of the noun refers to the vine,
while the feminine to the sweet cakes. Or is it that a different variety of
grapes were grown for raisins, not wine, just as presently here in
California, so this refers to that variety of grape vine? Any thoughts?

Karl W. Randolph.
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  • [b-hebrew] a climbing or raisin vine?, Karl Randolph, 07/26/2004

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