b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Biblical Hebrew Forum
List archive
RE: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7
- From: "Stoney Breyer" <stoneyb AT touchwood.net>
- To: "'Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7
- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:30:03 -0500
'Plenty', which is etymologically 'fullness', springs to mind, though I
find in social/political contexts 'prosperity' seems to work pretty well
Stoney Breyer
Writer
Touchwood, Inc.
314 421-9878
-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Randolph
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:32 PM
To: Hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7
Dear J. Raymond Kelley:
$LWM is a word for which I am struggling to find an English equivalent.
So far fullness is the best I have thought of.
It is my understanding that modern Hebrew uses it for peace, and it is
thusly often translated from Biblical Hebrew as well. However, as far as
I can tell, in BH the word specifically for peace is $Q+. Peace is
only one componant of fullness.
The verb $LM shalam has the meaning of to bring to fruition, to
fulfill, make full. This is not the same as ML) mala which is the
filling of an empty container, such as a jar with oil, rather this is
the fullness that is meant when it is said that a person has had a full
life, full of blessing.
Is there a one word in English that fits the Hebrew meaning?
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Raymond Kelley" <jraykelley AT prodigy.net>
> Far be it from me, one who lurks because I enjoy the discourse of
> learned men, to offer the following comment, but, Karl, doesn't your
> explanation just reflect another usage that someone coudl criticize
much
> in the manner that Peter did. I mean, come on, I know that you (and
even
> I) have a concept of "fullness", but really, who uses fullness in a
> sentence these days.
>
<snip>
>
> Ray (back to my quiet corner of the cave) Kelley
>
> Karl Randolph wrote:
>
> >Weal and woe what do they mean?
> >
> >At least in Isaiah 45:7 I have a clue, weal stands for $LWM
fullness and woe for R( displeasing (things) (the opposite of +WB
pleasing (things))
> >
> >The reason I started reading Tenakh in Hebrew was because of words
like that: archaic and no longer understood.
> >
> >I translate Is. 45:7 thusly, Former of light and creator of
darkness, maker of fullness and creator of displeasure, I am YHWH the
one who makes all of these.
> >
> >Karl W. Randolph.
--
__________________________________________________________
Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com
http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job
search
http://corp.mail.com/careers
_______________________________________________
b-hebrew mailing list
b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
- RE: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, Stoney Breyer, 08/01/2003
Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.