Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Dear Yigal:

Thanks for your reply.

No, I don’t think I am grasping at straws, trying to preserve my reading, 
rather I want to see the evidence pro and con. After all, the reason I ask is 
to be shot down if I am wrong. But I want good, solid reasons that I 
understand.

I am cautious about late Hebrew definitions, wondering if they are the result 
of theological disputes or Aramaic influences. But I still want to hear them.

For example, GZR in Hebrew meant ‘to sever’, but the last use of GZR in 
Tenakh was in Esther, where the writer used the Aramaic term ‘to decree’ in 
the Hebrew text instead of the Hebrew word XQQ.

Concerning NDN, both German (Scheibe) and Latin (vagina) have one word that 
means both a sheath for a sword and a woman’s vagina. These are two 
Indo-European languages. In Hebrew, it appears to have the same two meanings. 
Within the context, the verse appears to make more sense as ‘vagina’ unless 
it is used as a euphemism implying the same. What evidence is there in Hebrew 
other than late Hebrew influenced by Aramaic or red faces to read it other 
than as I have?

As for NDH, I found your response unconvincing. However, we’re here to 
discuss, not argue—thank you for responding.

Thanks again.

Karl W. Randolph.



> At 01:42 AM 6/3/2003 -0500, Karl Randolph wrote:
> >Dear Yigal:
> >
> >How late is “later Hebrew”?
> >
> In the Mishnah, but I don't have the refference right now. The Medieval and
> modern form (taken from the Aramaic) is "Nedunia".
> 
> 
> >The only other use of “nedan” in Tenakh is in 1 Chronicles 21:27, where it
> means ‘sheath’ (vagina in Latin).
> 
> But having no sexual connotation - once again, just a sheath for a sword. I
> don't know if the two are connected.
> 
> >
> >As for “nedah”, does it not come from the root meaning to eject, expel?
> >
> 
> No. That's Niddah, a different word. And even that simply means "cast
> aside", and refers to a woman's STATE during menstruation, not to the
> actual menstrual fluid. It is NEVER used for semen.
> 
> >Thus it appears so me that the red faces as per my original posting led to
> a change in the meaning of the Hebrew words.
> >
> 
> As I said, I think that this time you're chasing shadows.
> 
> 
> Yigal
> 
> >Yours, Karl W. Randolph.
> >

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