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  • From: decaen AT chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Ken Penner's thesis topic
  • Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:26:52 -0500 (EST)

dear Ken,

please do not include me with the others: i have consistently maintained
that B-Hebrew is a *tense* language, as indeed are *all* languages (i'm
giving a paper this july against the tenseless approach to Semitic and
Asian languages, including Chinese and Japanese). my 1995 thesis outlined
the solution. i have since made good on all IOUs in that work (i was
hoping to give a paper at the Florida semitics conference outlining the
syntax and semantics of "modal coordination"--my solution to the so-called
consecutive forms).

so for me, i've already solved your problem in principle. ;-)

however, you could still have a topic here, along these lines: say you
adopt my framework: there still is lot of song and dance to get to
medieval hebrew. moreover, it might be interesting to document a change
in aspectual default that must have taken place, maybe under the influence
of aramaic, which seems to have made the transition sooner. the focus
would be the bleaching of the semantics of the participle.

who would be the advisor?

shalom,
V
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dear Ken,

i won't be giving my personal info to Yahoo any time soon. :-(

can you make the info avaiable in some other way? does not McMaster give
you space on the server for a website?

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Thanks to both Trevor and Peter for their useful
comments on the significance of m`wz and m`zym.

I'm still at a loss to understand why the LXX and
the Vulgate after it left the Hebrew term as is and
didn't translate it, as though taking it for a name.
And I guess I'll stay at a loss on the matter.


Cheers,


Ian




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