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  • From: "Daryl F. Jefferies" <djefferi AT chorus.net>
  • To: b-hebrew AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: Jethro and the"The Midianite Hypothesis"
  • Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:52:56 -0600


Well... the people who wrote these ancient scriptures may not have been "there" at all... Point is: only the authors/collectors know if they were writing "history," retelling myth, or making the whole mess up. Arrogant scholars try to evaluate the data and figure out, most likely, what did (or did not) happen and who wrote (or didn't write) what when. Read carefully and you'll find that the "ancient scriptures" aren't all that clear about anything...

Sincerely,

Daryl Jefferies
A humble twenty-first century scholar : )


Why not just believe what the ancient scriptures say? Surely the people who were there and wroe it know more than arrogant, 20th Century "scholars" who came along thousands of years later, no? MAtthew Miller

"Invariably exacerbating and complicated verbage consistently effects in me repulsion of prolific proportions."



From: Bill Rea <bsr15 AT exchange.canterbury.ac.nz>
Reply-To: Bill Rea <bsr15 AT exchange.canterbury.ac.nz>
To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: [b-hebrew] Re: Jethro and the"The Midianite Hypothesis"
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:27:05 +1300 (NZDT)

Christopher wrote:-

Years ago, we were told a hypothesis about Jethro, Moses' father-in-law,
in Exodus. The idea was that Moses' contact with Jethro, the priest of
Midian, may have formed his religious ideas. For example, Moses' first
encounter with the deity occurs while sojourning with Jethro in Exodus 3.
This hypothesis implies Judaism an outgrowth of the Midianite religion,
which is certainly curious.

Since I wasn't much of a student, perhaps this is a misunderstanding on my
part. Has anyone heard of this before?

Yes, I have. There are problems with it, depending on your biases. If
you're a maximalist the problems are that the whole of Genesis is
before Moses and YHWH has lots to do with people then. If you're a
minimalist then there was no Moses to go visit with Jethro. Moses is
supposed to be a late creation to put a stop to the work of the
prophets. Another widely held bias in scholarly circles is that the
Israelites were incapable of having an original thought, so scholars
are always trying to find where they borrowed their ideas from.

A good rule of thumb is the number of hypotheses which fit the data is
inversely proportional to the amount of data you have. But in the
Biblical arena it seems quite acceptable to discard data which doesn't
fit your hypothesis. We have some truly excellent exponents of that
technique on this list, I'm sure you'll encounter them. So if you
discard everything which you don't like and only accept Moses'
encounter with Jethro then it becomes the only theory which fits
your facts.

The only evidence we have for Moses meeting Jethro is in the Hebrew
Scriptures. Grab a concordance and in a few minutes you can find
and read all the evidence we have available to us.

I'm sure you'll detect that I'm really cynical about all this. My
point is that you can have any answer you want and that answer tells
you more about your biases than anything else. I've even read that
Moses and Akenaten were the same person! A different answer, but one
born of the same bias that the Israelite people couldn't have had
an original thought.

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