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  • From: Numberup AT worldnet.att.net
  • Cc: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Gen 49:10 until tribute comes to him or Shiloh comes
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:38:51 -0700


"Until tribute comes to him" is the rendering of the New Revised Standard
Version
(NRSV) of 1989. The JPS Tanach reads similarly: "So that tribute shall come
to him,"
with the footnote: "Shiloh, understood as shai loh, "tribute to him,"
following
Midrash. Hebrew uncertain; lit. "Until he comes to Shiloh." Targum Onkelos,
however
renders it "Until the Messiah comes to whom the kingdom belongs" [ad d'yeitei
m'shisha
d'dileh hi malkuta], and Jewish Orthodoxy considers this verse to be the
"Torah source
for the belief in the Messiah." (Artscroll/Mesorah)


Solomon Landers

Brian Sullivan wrote:

> Greetings to all,
>
> Michael E. Stone's 1997 paper The Axis of History at Qumrum
> http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/orion/symposiums/2nd/papers/Stone97.html
> asserts the RSV translates Gen 49:10 as "The scepter shall not depart from
> Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until tribute comes to
> him; and the obedience of the peoples is his."
>
> The RSV however renders the third phrase as 'until he comes to whom it
> belongs.' Other common renderings are are 'until Shiloh comes' or similar.
>
> Is there any reason to translate the phrase as Stone has done so?
>
> Yours Sincerely,
>
> Brian Sullivan
>





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