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- From: Alviero Niccacci <sbfnet AT netvision.net.il>
- To: "David Stabnow" <dstabno AT lifeway.com>, Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: fronted IO in speech formula
- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:36:13 +0300
At 9:20 AM -0600 12/18/00, David Stabnow wrote:
Your point that weqatal is not
usually used at the beginning of direct speech is well taken. You and David
Dawson pointed out that wayyiqtol is *never* used at the beginning of
direct speech. However the inclusion of "usually" with regard to weqatal is
correct. Num 14:13 is one contrary example.
Dear David Stabnow,
Yes, weqatal at the beginning of a direct speech is also found in Exod 30:18 and Jos 22:28. In these cases, weqatal carries on a speech from the previous context; it does not actually convey a fresh start. Let us look at the examples:
- (Num 14:12) (God said to Moses) I want to strike them (the Israelites) with the pestilence and disinherit them, and make of you a nation greater and mightier than they."( 14:13) But Moses said to the Lord, "THEN the Egyptians WILL HEAR (weqatal) of it, for you did bring up this people in your might from among them," etc.
- Exod 30:18 is part of a speech of the Lord that for some reason is subdivided in several sections by means of fresh introductions--*The Lord spoke to Moses (saying)* (see 30:11, 17, 22, 34; also see 31:1, 12).
- Similarly, two *wanno'mer* verb forms subdivide in two sections a (reported) speech by the Reubenites, the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh in Jos 22:26 and 28:
"(22:26) THEREFORE WE SAID, 'Let us now build for us the altar, not for burnt offering, nor for sacrifice, (22:27) but it is a witness between us and you . . . lest your children say to our children in time to come, "You have no portion in the Lord.' "
(22:28) THEREFORE WE SAID, 'AND IT WILL HAPPEN (weqatal) that if this shall be said to us or to our descendants in time to come, we shall say, 'Behold the copy of the altar of the Lord, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifice, but to be a witness between us and you.' "
As is well known, weqatal is also used in a past context. In this case it signals repetition, habit, description.
Peace and all good.
Alviero Niccacci
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fronted IO in speech formula,
David Stabnow, 12/12/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- fronted IO in speech formula, Randall Buth, 12/13/2000
- Re: fronted IO in speech formula, Alviero Niccacci, 12/15/2000
- Re: fronted IO in speech formula, David Stabnow, 12/18/2000
- Re: fronted IO in speech formula, Alviero Niccacci, 12/19/2000
- Re: fronted IO in speech formula, Bryan Rocine, 12/20/2000
- RE: fronted IO in speech formula, Dan Wagner, 12/21/2000
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