Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Steve Oren" <soren AT enteract.com>]

Excuse me but the verse clearly needs a verb  so isn't "to wrestle" (Heb: 
Shin-Resh-Hey) better than a verb form derived from the noun "Sar" or 
Prince--where else in Tanakh does this noun become a verb

Hence: And he said "not Yaakov will be called your name but Yisrael for you 
have wrestled with gods (Elohim--THis could be a plural of respect but see 
on) and with men and prevailed...And Yaakov called the name of the place 
Paniel (but note varient: Panuel) for I have seen gods (elohim again) face to 
face and my soul has been saved."  So, the writer thinks that the personage 
encountered by Yaaqov is a deity.  And since Yaakov had wrestled with the 
personage (although a different verb is used), that is where the name comes 
from,  Note the other account at 34:10 is even less helpful as to origins.

                                                                              
                  Steve Oren
                                                                              
                  Chicago, IL

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> <LMB>
> What does "Israel" literally mean, please?
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> <Bill>
> Genesis 32:28  And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but
> Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God [elohim] and with men, and
> hast prevailed. {Israel: that is, A prince of God}
>
> Bill Ross
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