Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Banyai Michael" <banyai AT t-online.de>]

Could you Walter explain why you do regard the tradition of the southern Ur 
as 
being the earlier?

I can hardly figure out how could you present the Judith quote, (as you say 
late 
2-nd century BC), than perhaps aknowledge its continuity to the later 
posttalmudic folclore about Nimrud and Abraham (so also relating to the 
southern 
Ur)and still wish to enclose the northern Ur tradition inbetween?

Certainly, Ur Kasdim could be a "Verballhornung", popular for an original 
Ur-kesh in the Chabur region. The Chabur region could be seen as the kernel 
of 
Subartu/Chubur, name-giver of the Chabiru? The rabu/Rubenites and the 
Banu/Maru-Jamina/Benjaminites are later still roaming the Chabur region.

> Secondly, there is indeed "extra-biblical evidence" suggesting a Jewish
> understanding from as early as the Hasmonean period (late 2nd century BCE),
> that the Israelite forefathers were indeed originally of  Babylonia, and
> *only later* of Harran. This important relic is found preserved in Judith
> 5:5-9, as noted by Dr. Hess in the below appended articles.

Could you show any later sources to a northern Ur?

Best regards,

Banyai Michael