Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Peter Kirk"<peter_kirk AT sil.org>]

Yes, of course I agree that this is an approximation. I did leave out 
one use of QATAL which does not fit here, its use at the start of 
direct speech and sometimes as a simple event at the beginning of a 
chain of events. So QATAL is somewhat wider than a true perfect, but 
that is a useful starting point for interpretation. As for your three 
questions:

a precative (as in "I hereby give...") - of course this can be QATAL, 
each language has its own convention for this usage;

a (prophetic) simple future - I would need to look at specific 
examples on this one and look at the full syntactic contexts;

a statement of plain fact as so often seen in Psalms - well, Psalms 
may be slightly different language, tending towards Late Biblical 
Hebrew, and these may also resemble cases of QATAL at the beginning of 
direct speech.

But I wonder why you like the term "aorist"? Is it because it can be 
stretched to mean almost anything? ;-) I note that the Turkish 
"aorist" is totally different in meaning from the Greek "aorist".

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Re: QATAL with perfect meaning , Peter
Author:  <brocine AT earthlink.net> at Internet 
Date:    31/01/2000 20:19


Hi Peter,
You wrote:

<snip>

That's an approximation.  I like the name aorist for the 
prefixed forms, I think.  I think qatal has greater range than 
a true perfect.  For instance, it *can* be used for a simple, 
over-and-done-with event, equal in such a case to a wayyiqtol. 
 (I do not equate, however, qatal and wayyiqtol.) Do you think 
the following are compatible with your understanding of the 
perfect qatal: a precative (as in "I hereby give..."), a 
(prophetic) simple future, or a statement of plain fact as so 
often seen in Psalms?

Shalom,
Bryan


B. M. Rocine
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