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Shalom,

Thanks Peter. I really had never heard of this before, and it was just a
curiosity to me. Some people messaged me and said it would be considered
anti-Semetic to ask such a question or to raise this issue....but I wasn't
trying to instigate a religious argument, I just wanted to know if this
was true vis a vis what the Hebrew in the Genesis verses showed. Thanks
for the response.


Wondell M. Rachman

 On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 peter_kirk AT sil.org wrote:

> Dear Wondell,
> 
> The answer is very simple. Genesis 4:1 states clearly that Cain was 
> the son of Adam as well as Eve, and also credits YHWH with helping 
> here. Also, while the word "know" (YD`) means "have sexual relations" 
> in a few cases (BDB lists 17 references), in the great majority of its 
> 943 occurrences it simply means "know". If there is an underlying 
> theme of sexual seduction in Genesis 3, it is not this word which 
> indicates it.
> 
> It should also be made clear that (despite the similar sounds in 
> English) the names Cain (Qayin) and Canaan (Kena`an, 9:18) are quite 
> different and unrelated in Hebrew.
> 
> Peter Kirk
> 
> 
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> Subject: Serpent Seed Doctrine
> Author:  <gs02wmr AT panther.Gsu.EDU> at Internet
> Date:    31/12/1999 23:00
> 
> 
> Shalom,
> 
> Has anyone heard of this doctrine? I know it is espoused by some Christian 
> Identity groups and white supremacists like Pastor Arnold Murray?
> 
> The story goes that in the Torah it really states that Qayin(Cain) was the 
> child of Satan/Enki. He was driven underneath the earth by Yaweh/Enlil. 
> Because The Serpent(Satan) seduced Eve, she was supposedly impregnated by 
> him and thus bore Qayin or Canaanites lineage. Further proof is offered 
> that in Genesis 4, Adam is nowhere to be found in the genealogy of Qayin 
> and in Adam's genealogy(Gen Chapter 5), Qayin is nowhere to be found. 
> Further supposed proof is that it was the Serpent that came to Eve, and 
> that they conspired together to have sex so that they could produce a seed 
> that would be a blend of the Material Sons (Adamites) and the Nodites 
> (children of Nod). Kain is the supposed child of this union between the 2.
> 
> I note that in most fables of the " Garden of Eden " story, they
> speak of the fruit having to do with sex, which is why it was said " And 
> the KNEW... " Knowing thruout the bible conotes sex, ex. " And Adam knew 
> his wife Eve... "  etc. Could anyone offer any breakdown of the actual 
> Hebrew to support or disclaim any of this? I am interested to know how the 
> language and actual grammar is relevant at all here.
> 
> Shalom.
> 
> Wondell M. Rachman
> 
> 
> 
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