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  • From: peter_kirk AT sil.org
  • To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Sabbaths
  • Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 23:44:09 -0500


Watch out for circular argument here!

What grounds do you have for considering Chronicles to be later than
other books, if you reject the dialect arguments as in another post?

So, Chronicles is late because it mentions the Sabbath and other
cultic changes; and the Sabbath is late because it is mentioned in
Chronicles.

See the circle? Where's the way out?

Also don't forget that the seventh day sabbath is clearly stated in
Exodus 16, 20:8-11, 23:12, 31:12-17 and 35:2-3, not generally
considered especially late. Indeed 23:12 is part of the Book of the
Covenant which is generally considered rather early, and in which the
principle of six periods of labour followed by a seventh period of
rest is deeply embedded - see 21:2, 23:10-11, also 22:30 mentions the
eighth day.

Alternative suggestion: the seventh day sabbath was instituted early,
but was rarely observed outside the sanctuary, except by a few who
tried to enforce it more widely e.g. Nehemiah (13:15-22) and the
Maccabees. See also 2 Kings 4:23, a rare mention in the historical
books.

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Re: Genesis 2:4
Author: <mc2499 AT mclink.it> at Internet
Date: 01/12/1999 11:51


At 14.10 01/12/99 +1100, George Athas wrote:
George wrote:

<snip>

I seem to be inexorably coming to the conclusion that the seventh day
sabbath was instituted in the second century BCE. Notice the way that 1 & 2
Maccabees handles the sabbath as though the conflict of handling military
problems on the sabbath hadn't been faced before. Consider the order from
Hosea 2:11 New Moons, Sabbaths and Feast days. This is the order of Ps81:3
New Moons, Full Moons and Feast Days. The parallel making the connection
between sabbath and full moon -- which is not too strange given the
Mesopotamian usage of the term shapattu -- and we should remember that the
important festivals start in the middle of the month -- the time of a full
moon. So if sabbath originally meant full moon to the Hebrews, it would
follow new moons in a list of cultic occasions, but if it meant the seventh
day, being more frequent one would expect it to precede new moons. We get
late works such as Chr which gives Sabbaths, New Moons and Feast days. If
the logic here is correct then the seventh day sabbath is a good dating
indication for relative chronology of the development of biblical texts.


Cheers,


Ian


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