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  • From: jonathan.bailey AT gmx.de
  • To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>, <peter_kirk AT sil.org>
  • Subject: Hebrew and Israel and a Book on Inscriptions
  • Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:31:18 -0500



My Biblical Hebrew is much further along than Modern Hebrew, though I have
completed a course amounting to the ulpan level gimmel in modern Hebrew.
Basically, I know enough to go to Israel and find out I don't know a whit.
Unfortunately,
I am getting married and am too poor to transplant my entire family to
Israel, s
o

unless I end up getting a job there, I don't plan on being what I would call
fluent in the
language. I do aspire to be able to read it though, for purposes of the
Fachliteratur. In
terms of the linguistics, I really don't see too much relevance of Modern
Hebrew
.
I
have a personal interest in modern Hebrew poetry, though. (If one dare call
that
stuff
modern.)

And I am not terribly sure about the sine qua non thing. In my frantic
struggle
for a
pen-pal, I have been astounded by the number of people I have run into on
Jewish
and
Hebrew lists and sites who do not know modern Israeli Hebrew.

You asked about being able to help. Well, I am looking for a letter or e-mail
correspondance in modern Hebrew. I have LingoMAIL, and can receive and send
Hebrew mails. Anyway, finding people who are willing to talk to me is pretty
har
d,
as I
am a committed Christian who knows more about Judaism than most Jews. Not that
I am tooting my own horn. I just major in the stuff. I admit to knowing much
les
s
than
virtually all graduated scholars, but scholars are hard to come by. Do you
know
where
I can get in touch with Israelis who would be interested in talking to a guy
lik
e
me? I
really need to work on my active writing skills, so if I ever do end up in
Israe
l
with a
need to learn the language quickly, it won't be such a shock. Letters would be
better,
so I would be more inclined to take the time to write them properly and in so
doing
save myself some embarassment. E-mails find a way to get rushed. But I will
take
what I can get. Though I am a Christian, I tend to like to AVOID talking about
theological subjects with Jews or Christians unless I am already assured that
I
am
on
a VERY similar wavelength than my partner. I hate meeting people who I am
tempte
d

to respect, only to have that friendship ruined by differing religious
beliefs.
The
healthiest relationship I have with an academian is my epigraphy teacher
because
we
don't mutter a peep about personal religious views. We just peep about
epigraphy
.

As far as the visit, well, the only way you could help me is by getting a
scholarship for
me to get a doctorate over there that would be sufficient for me to support my
wife
and daughter. I would be willing to work as much as possible without damaging
my
studies, but of course, I don't know modern Hebrew fluently.

But we all do what we can in this world. Some just don't have the privilege of
running
all over the world learning all kinds of languages. But my wife and daughter
are
worth
the sacrifice.

I assume the book you mentioned is translated into English? I would like to
know
if the
ISBN you gave me is to the Hebrew or English. I would like to get it in
Hebrew (
if
I get it
at all - can you tell me more about it?).

I have decided to go ahead and put this on the list, although it is personal
and
off-topic, because I am indeed looking for "penpals". Maybe someone on the
list
would
be interested. For those of you who are not, and don't enjoy your boxes
getting
cluttered with personal style mails about off-topic subjects, you can be rest
assured
that I will stick to Hebrew linguistics in the future.

Jon


---------- Original Message ----------

>>if I really
>>fall in love with the language and/or find the time to really learn it
>fluently.

>i noticed you mentioned ... "[akkadian] fluently" ... and also "modern
>hebrew" in your list.

>i hope that means that you are already fluent in hebrew.
>that is a sine qua non if you are serious about doing your best in biblical
>hebrew.

>what levels are necessary?
>i would say about 5000 vocabulary level for BH, 6000-10000 for modern.
>if you're not there, then by all means plan a visit over here. i'll be glad
>to help out where i can.

>on inscriptions that you've mentioned interest in, you may want

>asuppat ketovot `ivriyyot
>by shmuel aHitov
>jerusalem: mosad bialik, 1992
>ISBN 965-342-602-8
>eng tit: handbook of ancient hebrew inscriptions

>it's nice to work on these things within the language, as it were.

>braxot
>randall buth
>rothberg, hebrew u.
>jerusalem univ. coll.

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