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  • From: peter_kirk AT SIL.ORG
  • To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: Three Competing Paradigms
  • Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:40:45 -0500


Two extracts from Lloyd Barre's posting: "a notion given classical
expression in P, especially in Ex 6:3, who learned this teaching from
the Elohist in Ex 3:13-15. Here the war god Yahweh Sabaoth, under the
influence of ontological thought, is transformed into Yihwah, an
emanation of Divine Becoming as taught by Mose, who learned it from
Ptah... The dominant and enduring theological influence upon the Old
Testament was not a product of Hellenism, but of a form of Egyptian
Ontology that was extant in the 28th century in Memphis. In this
sense, the OT is not fundamentally young and Hellenistic but old and
Egyptian."

An interesting idea. What dating are you suggesting, Lloyd, for your
proposed synthesis? Your web site dates Ex 6:3 as 6th century, by
which time Egypt and its thought was in decline. But surely it makes
more sense within your paradigm for this synthesis to have come about
much earlier and to be expressed in P dated early as by Kaufmann. How
do you know Ex 3:13-15 came from the Elohist? (Who was he anyway? You
date this to 14th century on your web site!). I would of course accept
that this Levitical theology was that of a minority group within
Judah, which perhaps gradually gained in influence during the monarchy
and became dominant only at the time of Josiah's reform. Meanwhile
Yahweh Sabaoth was the more popular view, not actually in
contradiction to the Levitical one but rather in tension with it.

Peter Kirk




  • Three Competing Paradigms, Lloyd Barre, 03/06/1999
    • <Possible follow-up(s)>
    • Re: Three Competing Paradigms, peter_kirk, 03/08/1999

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