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- From: "Thomas L. Thompson" <tlt AT teol.ku.dk>
- To: "'b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu'" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: SV: Clarification
- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:02:34 +0100
(n.b. I am finding it difficult to answer to the list with my response mode;
please forward if necessary: tlt)
> ----------
> Fra: Thomas L. Thompson
> Sendt: 13. januar 1999 10:59
> Til: 'Lloyd Barre'
> Emne: SV: Clarification
>
> My purpose was to encourage more explicit references to what is only
> implicit. To refer to a biblical monotheism can have many different -- and
> possibly contradictory -- implications. The use of Elohei shamayim may
> well refer to the transcendent and universal, but a reference to Yahweh as
> Israel's elohim is a reference to a very specific deity among the many
> deities of this world (cf. Deut 32:8) and to the transcendent divine only
> by refraction. The use of references as "the holy ones" or metaphors of a
> heavenly counsel and the like on the other hand are what we call
> polytheistic, but which may implicitly echo references to a transcendent
> unity and an effort to speak of the transcendent in self-consciously
> ephemeral mode. I don't like the word henotheistic because I feel that
> using it often confuses literary motifs with theological beliefs. Yet,
> speaking of "one's god" itself has henotheistic implications as do
> references to the gods, the devil, etc. to say nothing of the way the
> authors of some texts in the Bible refer to gods of the past.
>
> Our own scholarly abstractions I think oversimplify, distort and falsify.
> I don't think what we reference as biblical monotheism was always opposed
> to ancient forms of polytheism; at times monotheism is an effort to
> abstract from the ephemeral and human language about the divine. I think
> for many of our texts gods have clay feet in contrast to the divine which
> transcends understanding. For this I use the term inclusive monotheism. In
> this worldview, Yahweh is not god but his name, an hypostasis, god's son
> or mal'ak.
>
> Thomas
>
> Thomas L. Thompson
> Professor
> University of Copenhagen
>
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> Fra: Lloyd Barre[SMTP:barre AT c-zone.net]
> Svar til: Lloyd Barre
> Sendt: 12. januar 1999 21:43
> Til: Biblical Hebrew
> Emne: Clarification
>
> Dear Thomas L. Thompson,
>
> I don't know what you being by stating the various forms of beliefs
> such as
> monotheism, henotheism and polytheism do not exist but a relative
> terms
> invented by scholars. Would you clarify, please?
>
> Lloyd Barre
>
>
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Clarification,
Lloyd Barre, 01/12/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Clarification, Ian Hutchesson, 01/12/1999
- SV: Clarification, Thomas L. Thompson, 01/13/1999
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