Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Bryan Rocine" <596547 AT ican.net>]

Dear Rolf,

With a couple exceptions(particularly with the LXX), I find the alternative
texts to confirm the discourse analysis I put forth a post or two ago.

Shalom,
Bryan

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> From: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
> To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Subject: Re: 1 Samuel 1, bryan
> Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 8:57 AM
> 
> 
> Dear Vince and Bryan,
> 
> I view 1 Samuel 1 as a good example of the inadequacy of generative
grammar
> or discourse analysis as tools to explain the meaning of verbs. This
> chapter also illustrates the inadequacy of the explanations of
traditional
> grammar.
> 
> Some time ago I made a comparison between the Hebrew text and the text of
> the LXX (G) Targum Jonathan (T), the Peshitta (S), and the Ge'ez version
> (E). In Greek, aspect is connected with the single verb and not with
> clauses or discourse units. An aorist is always perfective and an
imperfect
> is always imperfective. I have never seen anybody claim that aspect is
> connected with anything but the single verb also in Syriac and Ge'ez.  A
> study of the versions reveal how they understood the Hebrew verbs of 1.
> Samuel, and an interesting challenge for you would be to make a synthesis
> of the verbs of the versions and the Hebrew text on the basis of
discourse
> analysis or generative grammar.
> 
> Below I list the renditions of the versions of the first 10 verses:
> 
> a = aorist
> i = imperfect (corresponding to Hebrew yiqtol)
> p = perfect (corresponding to Hebrew qatal)
> part = participle  (participle + perfect in Syriac is defined as durative
> past (imperfective))
> pass =passive
> inf = infinitive
> w = waw
> 
> v 1, 2 wayhi  (G:i, T,S w+p, E: p) NB, G imperfective, T,S,E perfective
> 
> v 3 we(flf  (G:a, T:w+part,S:part+p,E:i)  NB, G-perfective, T,S,E -
> imperfective
> 
> v 4 wayhi  (G: GINOMAI, a,pass,T,S:w+p) NB, all perfective
>       wayyizbax (G:a,T,S:w+p,E:p)  NB,  all perfective
>       wenatan  (G:a,T,S:w+p,E:p)  NB, all perfective
> 
> v 5  yiten  (G:a,T,S,E:p)  NB, all perfective
>       (fheb (G:i,T: part,S:part+p,E:i)  NB, all are imperfective
>      sfgar (G:a,T,S,E:p) NB, all perfective
> 
> v 6 weki(a:satf (G:-,T: part,S: part+p,E:p) NB, T,S imperfective, E
perfective
>      sfgar  (G:a,T,S-E:p) NB, all are perfective
> 
> v 7 ya(a:se (G:a,T,S,E:p) NB, all perfective
>     takisennf (G:i,T:part,S: part+p,E:i?)  NB, all are imperfective
>     wattibke (G:i,T:part,S:p,E:i) NB, S perfective G,T,E imperfective
>      tokal      (G:i,T:part,S:p,G:i) NB, S perfective G,T,E imperfective
> 
> v 8 wayyomer (G:a,T,S:w+p,E:p) NB, all perfective
> 
> v 9 wataqfm  (G:a,T,S:w+p,E:p) NB, all perfective
>       fkelf  (G:inf,T,S:p,E:i) NB, TS perfective, E imperfective
>       yo$eb  (G:i,T,S:part.E;i) NB, All imperfective
> 
> v 10  wattitpallel (G:a,T:part,S:part+p, E-) NB, G perfective, T,S
imperfective
>          tibke  (G:pres.part+a,T:infin+ part, S:part+p,E:p) NB, E
> perfective, G,T.S imperfective.
> 


B. M. Rocine
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