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[acawiki-general] AcaWiki futures, Wikimedia project proposal?
- From: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT creativecommons.org>
- To: "AcaWiki general (listserv)" <acawiki-general AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Cc: Neeru Paharia <neerupaharia AT gmail.com>, "Benj. Mako Hill" <mako AT atdot.cc>
- Subject: [acawiki-general] AcaWiki futures, Wikimedia project proposal?
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:40:43 -0800
Moving an email thread that started as a bug report to acawiki-general; this discussion could use more voices. Most of thread is archived in bug comments at http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue780
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Benj. Mako Hill <mako AT atdot.cc> wrote:
Great. I imagine we should start hashing one out on AcaWiki in the AcaWiki: namespace and move to meta.wikimedia.org (IIRC) when semi-well-formed, but happy to do any other way.
I don't think it matters because it would be good outreach no matter what, but even happier to hear realistic chance of new Wikimedia projects. Very exciting!
We're close anyway. Conversation moved.
Mike
<quote who="Mike Linksvayer" date="Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:53:00AM -0800">
> - I don't think SMW is a must. It is fluff. The important things aboutI agree completely. SMW is great on AW, but not necessary. I would
> AcaWiki are the summaries and the people who write them; content and
> community. I'm a huge SMW fan, not advocating getting rid of it, but I'd
> like to recognize that there is nothing special about the software re
> AcaWiki, other than that it is a wiki.
happily happily trade away all the benefits of SMW for the opportunity
to be more closely integrated into the WikiMedia Community with the
huge influx in contributions that would likely coincide with.
That's the right way to do it. There is another recent proposal called
> - WMF adoption, or even just lots more experienced Wikipedians
> contributing to AcaWiki, would be an awesome outcome. What can we do
> to push/explore/not preclude? In August (IIRC) Neeru and I talked
> about creating a WMF new project proposal.
WikiScholar. It's a nice proposal but I think we should actually
propose AcaWiki. Honestly, I think the most likely outcome is that the
two projects will be merged. And I think that's will be a good
outcome, but I think it's work developing a proposal on our own.
Great. I imagine we should start hashing one out on AcaWiki in the AcaWiki: namespace and move to meta.wikimedia.org (IIRC) when semi-well-formed, but happy to do any other way.
That doesn't matter. There is very serious talk in WMF about trying to
> Of course they've all failed since ~2006, but it would be good
> outreach no matter what. I'd still be happy to do this. Thoughts?
resurrect this. People in the foundation and the community think that
the lack of new projects is a problem. There is new community
infrastructure which has specifically been created to deal with this.
Rumblings are that there will is likely to be a serious genealogy
project (probably a merger of two or more separate wiki genealogy
projects) through the proposal by the end of the year. I think the
time is ripe.
I don't think it matters because it would be good outreach no matter what, but even happier to hear realistic chance of new Wikimedia projects. Very exciting!
Yes. We need to start a thread there to see if others will support
> - This should probably be occurring on acawiki-general; feel free to send
> replies there if you agree.
this.
A new project proposal needs to be supported by say, a half a dozen or
a dozen participants from the project plus a bunch of Wikimedians. It
should also have some sort of proof of concept. I think we have all
that. Let's start the conversation on the public list.
We're close anyway. Conversation moved.
Mike
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