[TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl book

Tobi Vail tobivail at gmail.com
Fri Sep 14 15:09:50 EDT 2007

ps apologies for bad spelling/rushed response EPHEMERAL there i spelled it right

On 9/14/07, Tobi Vail <tobivail at gmail.com> wrote:
> well,,,there is a difference in perspective....if you made something
> when you were 18 with the intent of 5 people reading it, would you
> want it on the internet when you are 38? not necsesarily...i'm not
> opposed to having some of my old work out there, i'm intending to make
> it available on my own terms, but i have no interest in making a
> fanzine 'available for download'...to me, fanzines are all about
> context....those zines were not made for everyone...they were made in
> a community for a community and often that was a community of less
> than 20 people...i don't find that any more elitist than going over to
> someone's house for dinner rather than having a banquet. obviously the
> conversations you have with your friends over dinner are going to be
> different than a speech you'd give at an awards ceremony...sorry if
> this is warped by my personal persepctive/neurosis, but there you have
> it...i also love ephermal art and view fanzines in the same way...
> the thing about saying that young people missed out because they were
> young doesn't hold up because anyone can make a fanzine. those zines
> aren't any better than anything anyone could make right now. that is
> why the fanzine is a great art form. it's there for the taking...
> time to get in the van! nice to see everyone in the bay area...hi layla!
> x
> tobi
> ps there is actually an overabundance of academic writing on riot
> grrl, but some of it is good, just search online or on jstor or
> something like that and you'll get overwhelmed. it's not like people
> haven't archived it and analyzed it to death already....what needs to
> happen is another movement, not more documentation, well,,,,that's
> more than my two cents, but there you have it
> On 9/14/07, mike at appelstein.com <mike at appelstein.com> wrote:
> > I understand what you're saying, and I definitely understand the
> > tendency to look at the past through rose-colored glasses.  But at the
> > same time, why should latecomers miss out on inspiring
> > art/music/writing just because they happened to be too young, or just
> > otherwise occupied, the first time?  I don't think there's anything
> > wrong with exploring the past, especially if it helps inspire the
> > future.  Perhaps a balance of past and present works best.
> >
> > -Mike
> > mike at appelstein.com
> > http://djearlybird.blogspot.com
> > http://www.youngmarblegiants.com
> >
> > Quoting Layla Gibbon <lpgibbon at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > One of the things I like about punk culture is that it
> > > is transient. It kind of annoys me that suddenly now
> > > everyone is so reverent towards the ephemera, people
> > > bidding on ebay for fanzines and demos that would have
> > > disappeared in previous generations.
> >
> >
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