[TypicalGirls] Random Observation

Emily Arkin viole_falushe at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 19 23:51:03 EDT 2007


I second that emotion re: New Bloods. I missed them live
here but have been listening to their EP ever since. I
think TGers would definitely enjoy!

I agree that music is absolutely an expression of your
identity including gender (and I wasn't accusing anyone on
this list of overgeneralizing/stereotyping, nor do I think
we shouldn't talk about gender relates to music. It's more
I feel like I've heard too much about masculine/feminine
dichotomies in music criticism in general over the course
of life and sometimes it sets my teeth on edge).

I'm curious to know what others think of Reynolds and
Press's The Sex Revolts: Gender, Rebellion, and Rock n
Roll? I had mixed feelings about that book...I loved so
many of the bands covered and thought it had interesting
points but I also found I vehemently disagreed with many of
the arguments made. It's been a while since I read it
tho...

Emily

--- Kelsey Guntharp <kbguntha at hotmail.com> wrote:

> oh and speaking of, new band with violin, New Bloods?
> Totally amazing:
> http://myspace.com/thenewbloods
> 
> ~K
> 
> 
> >From: "Kelsey Guntharp" <kbguntha at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "Typical Girls: Women in
> Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa  
> >1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >To: typicalgirls at lists.ibiblio.org
> >Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] Random Observation
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:51:58 -0700
> >
> >
> >In my opinion, I think that it's just that all of those
> bands added a
> >"female" perspective to the music they were creating.
> And that was part of
> >the point of it. There is something strange to me about
> picking things out
> >like this as if they are weird. I know we don't want to
> divide the sexes 
> >but
> >there is something specific about a woman's experience
> that I think most
> >women can relate to, whether they identify with it or
> not (and i think a 
> >lot
> >of us obviously don't). And learning string instruments
> perhaps was a
> >feminine thing, particularly back then (seems like its
> much more acceptable
> >to learn traditional rock instruments these days?). And
> it's because of
> >incorporating these experiences that we have these
> awesomely amazing bands
> >that changed the face of rock. I don't see it as
> stereotyping, and in a way
> >I think not recognizing that detaches us.
> >
> >I hope no one gets me wrong here, I in no way think that
> being a woman
> >specifies someone to a particular style.  But I do think
> music is about
> >expressing oneself and as women, like I said, there are
> a lot of 
> >stereotypes
> >and expectations that we carry with us everyday,
> everywhere. You can't deny
> >it. We're just typical girls. (ha ha. couldn't resist
> that one.)
> >
> >My 2 cents.
> >
> >~Kelsey
> >
> > >From: Chuck Warner <chuck at hyped2death.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Typical Girls: Women in
> Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music 
> >(Circa
> > >1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: "Typical Girls: Women in
> Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
> > >1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] Random Observation
> > >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:18:35 -0400
> > >
> > >Wow--
> > >
> > >This is quite interesting. Between a boatload of
> late-60's-70s bands
> > >from Curved Air to It's a Beautiful Day to Dan Hicks
> --all the way up
> > >to Dixie Chicks ;o), there are/were TONS of bands with
> female singers
> > >and violinists. Often one and the same. Laurie
> Anderson, Tiny Town,
> > >Dambuilders, Tiny Lights, Rebby Sharp, Passionel, Hugo
> Largo, Ed's
> > >Redeeming Qualities, Scorched Earth Policy +++
> > >
> > >Immediate memory fails me on many others, but the
> statistical
> > >correlation between women in bands and violins, violas
> and cellos is
> > >through the roof.  Theories?
> > >
> > > >Interesting... (I'm a female rock violinst myself) I
> think
> > > >that, due to their arty bent, these bands wanted to
> > > >incorporate instruments that were not necessarily
> > > >considered rock-by-nature (rather than this being
> directly
> > > >related to gender).  Tho I guess many people argue
> that the
> > > >off-kilter/experimental nature of Liliput and The
> > > >Raincoats' songwriting is a direct result of being
> > > >female/having a feminine aesthetic. There's
> something about
> > > >that argument that I don't like but I can't quite
> put my
> > > >finger on it. I guess it's just that I hate to see
> musical
> > > >ideas pigeonholed by sex when there are so many
> other ways
> > > >to describe music which don't invoke the whole ball
> of
> > > >gender stereotyping wax.
> > > >Emily
> > > >http://shepherdessband.com
> > > >
> > > >--- Tim Murphy <timmy.bear at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  > Was just thinking, ...each
> > > >  > of these bands incorporated a violin player at
> various
> > > >  > points.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Chuck Warner
> > >Hyped to Death CDs/Messthetics
> > >P.O. Box 351
> > >Westminster, Massachusetts 01473
> > >http://hyped2death.com
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