[percy-l] Love in the Ruins??

Ken Armstrong armstron at ohiou.edu
Wed Nov 26 11:39:12 EST 2008

Sometime after 9/11 I saw a newspaper article stating that Al Quaida 
operatives thought that after the destruction of the towers, the American 
people would overthrow the Bush government, or at least vote W out next 
election. Instead, 9/11 mostly likely gave him a second term.  The Russian 
"analyst" here doesn't seem to exhibit any more sophistication in his grasp 
of the USA than the Al Quaidans.  And the quotient for his self interest I 
suppose is obvious.

Ken Armstrong

At 11:26 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote:
>Here is an interesting, albeit disturbing article, that sounds like a
>version of the U.S. as portrayed in Love in the Ruins.
>Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET
>A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in
>the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is
>heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.
>Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily
>IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything.
>The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in
>the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my
>prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11
>trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."
>The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy,
>initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago
>at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more
>credence by this year's events.
>When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is
>already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest
>and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and
>two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now
>what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global
>financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial
>When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he
>said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast
>reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in
>Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he
>said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the
>U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their
>savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and
>Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities
>will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding
>money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the
>moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that
>Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are
>no miracles."
>He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified
>national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear
>in these crisis conditions."
>He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific
>coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its
>Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the
>Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the
>poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and
>the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
>He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on
>lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic
>Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored
>several books on information warfare.
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