[percy-l] Judgement and Pride

Parlin, Steven PARLINS at culver.org
Sun Aug 17 18:24:52 EDT 2003

Given the examples I provided, Jim... is there any argument that the person
doing the judging is seeing more clearly? I mean...C'mon. 
I didn't say that admonitions must come from those not engaged in the
behavior. Nor did I imply that. But, it would be the height of hypocrisy to
judge others before removing the plank. 
Also, I never said anything about punishment... but only corrective
admonition and love-based intervention. LOVE, is what I said, Jim, not
punitive measures. 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Piat [mailto:piat1 at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:04 PM
To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
Subject: Re: [percy-l] Judgement and Pride 

Dear Steve, 
Karey... we MUST judge. In each of the above cases the person doing the
judging obviously sees a little clearer than the person being judged. 
>>maybe so, but could it be that he just pridefully imagines he sees more
True, we should not attempt to remove the speck from another's eye until the
plank has been removed from our own. For example, if I were sleeping with 20
different women, some of who were married, I could hardly judge my friend
for cheating on his wife. But, if I then stopped philandering...l
could...and indeed must... admonish him for his adultery ---out of LOVE for
>>Steve I don't see how admonishing others for some wrongdoing must
necessarily follow from not engaging in the wrongful >>behavior oneself.
Does it also follow that not admonishing others is evidence that one is
himself engaged in the wrongful >>behavior?  Something seems fishy about the
logic of this to me.  Perhaps I've misunderstood.   I'll grant you that we
must try to >>discern and judge the consequences of acts (both our own and
others) but must we as well take it upon ourselves to admonish >>those we
don't agree with  -- isn't this better left to their parents or their own
consciences?  Plus, in my experience punishment >>only supresses behavior;
it doesn't teach new behavior  -- only love can do that.  Or so it seems to


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