[nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 242, Issue 9

mark wessel growyourown at earthlink.net
Mon Nov 23 09:14:04 EST 2020


Alan

How does the nursery dig these long rooted trees? Do they use an air knife?

I have several trees that were budded three years ago and need to move them out of the nursery and into the orchard. Would love to get this done soon. Should I wait until late winter or do think it is safe to do now? Southern Ohio zone 6.


Mark

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On digging trenches for individual roots for bare root transplant:
> 
> I have a nursery that produces bearing age, 2.5" diam. well branched 12'
> tall fruit trees that I grow and transplant with over half of my inventory
> being bare root.  The diameter of the root systems can sometimes be as much
> as 8'- with peaches that means a very rigid 8'.  Some roots may extend 6'
> from the trunk.
> 
> Digging trenches for such roots is standard procedure for us and has been
> for years.  Often we simply lift the sod with a little soil and pull the
> roots underneath creating a nice shallow root system that over the years
> has served trees very well.  Sometimes peach trees act as though they
> weren't even transplanted and can hold good crops the first season after
> transplant.  Same with J. plums, but other species will tend to need a
> season to recover.
> 
> After planting shallow we dress trees with a 6 cu' ft wheelbarrow of
> compost covered with same of shredded wood mulch.   Forest soil tends to be
> a parfait and not homogenous like prairie soil and I find trees tend to
> thrive in an approximation of that.
> 
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>> I?m curious what others think of what I?ve been doing recently. I have
>> reasonably nice soil, but it?s full of rock of all different sizes, some
>> large. So digging holes is very hard work. And I understand that it?s
>> important not to bend the roots of a young plant back on itself. So I?ve
>> been digging a small hole for the ?core" of the plant, and spreading out
>> the roots on the top of the soil, and then digging a small trench for each
>> root, often with a trowel. For instance, I planted some apple rootstock
>> that was basically a stick with half a dozen long thread-like roots. So I
>> dug a star, and spread out each root thread in a different direction.
>> 
>> It?s a lot less digging. If I hit a large rock, I can guide the root
>> around it. I?ve planted tree peonies, apples, and hazelnuts this way.
>> 
>> Nothing that I?ve planted that way has seemed to die of it, yet. (Plants
>> that died mostly did so because a deer ate the whole plant. A tree peonies
>> developed some fungal disease.)  But I feel a little guilty when I do this.
>> 
>> Wishing you all a safe Thanksgiving,
>> Ginda Fisher
>> eastern MA, zone 6
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn at mebtel.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I echo Lee's advice. I never amend holes now, I plant in soil as it lays
>> and top dress.
>>> 
>>> My first experience growing fruit trees I amended all (very big) holes.
>> They lasted about 12 years, got quite large, but when they started dying, a
>> post mortem revealed roots did not penetrate beyond the original hole
>> diameter.
>>> 
>>> On 11/23/2020 6:13 AM, Lee Reich wrote:
>>>> And any material that dramatically changes the soil porosity creates a
>> ?pot in the ground? effect wherein roots stay inn the amended soil
>>> 
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