[nafex] Hawthorns - best varieties
Jeffrey Boulier
boulierinasia at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 16 22:46:43 EST 2013
Glad to hear a good word for the Azarole! I may order one. I picked up a Chinese Hawthorn last winter, and it already has had a bout with fireblight. I cut off the affected branches and am hoping it will recover, but it's a bad sign for its disease resistance. Too bad; I really like the taste.
I found my copy of Phipps. C. scabrifolia is the edible hawthorn used by the southern Chinese.
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From: Hector Black <hblack1925 at fastmail.fm>
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We have grown Azarole in zone 6 with no hardiness problem. There is some quince rust but still we get a good crop. Available at Hidden Springs along with Mayhaw. We have serious quince rust problems with Chinese hawthorn, most of fruit is too damaged to use. Hector Black zone 6 middle tn
On Jan 16, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Jeffrey Boulier wrote:
> I'm very interested in hawthorns, but my knowledge is mostly theory -- I only have a couple at the moment and they are all still in pots.
>
> There are a few species of hawthorn that are commercially grown for their fruit.
>
> Crataegus azarolus (Azarole)
> Crataegus pinnatifida (Chinese Hawthorn/Shan Zha)
> Crataegus mexicana (Mexican Hawthorn/Tejocote)
> Crategus opaca, Crataegus aestivalus, and maybe Crataegus rufula (Mayhaw)
>
> I think there's also a southern Chinese species whose name escapes me, but is mentioned in Phipps' "Hawthorns and Medlars" book.
>
> Additionally, some taxonomists are now lumping Mespilus germanica (Medlar) into Crataegus.
>
> I would expect that of the above, only the American-origin mayhaws and tejocote have any significant resistance to fireblight.
>
> Azarole is listed by OGW and pfaf as zone 6, but to be honest even that seems marginal to me; it's grown only in southern Europe.
>
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> From: Matt Demmon <mdemmon at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Hawthorns - best varieties
>
> I don't remember the species names, but I noticed that One Green World had
> several different groups of hawthorns for sale this time around, including
> Mayhaw from the S. United States, Azarole from Italy, and a hawthorn from
> China. All claimed to be hardy to z5.
>
> -matt
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Steven Covacci <filtertitle at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm interested in growing excellent types of hawthorns.
>> According to Ken Fern (Plants for a Future), a European species: Crataegus
>> schraderana is exceptionally delicious. I don't know of a source for it in
>> the US. Any ideas?
>> Natives: I have a seed-propgated 'Homestead' (C. x arnoldiana). C.
>> arnoldiana (including C. mollisa and C. submollis) are considered some of
>> the best; perhaps for size, if not that and flavor. C. flava is supposed
>> to be good, along with C. succulenta.
>> I'm getting a native Crataegus from NY - from Schlabach's Nursery known as
>> 'Heart's Delight', which is supposedly very good.
>> Steve NJ
>>
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