[nafex] Diospyros lotus

bassgarden at gmail.com bassgarden at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 15:03:20 EDT 2012

I am not sure if it's possible for the tree to change its sex, but there are many persimmon varieties that have both male and female flowers. 
I have tried a couple varieties of D. Lotus. One is at the Brooklyn botanical gardens that bears elongated fruit and turn dark when ripe. It is totally seedless with the absence of a male. The other is a seedling of a wild Korean persimmon. The tree produces heavy crop of small round fruit that is full with seeds. 
I usually graft persimmon as soon as the rootstock starts breaking dormancy. Many methods will work for grafting but it has to be done at the right time. Make sure to select a shoot that is growing straight up rather than a side branch. Since persimmons often prunes its side branches. 
Bass Samaan
Zone 6, Pa

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From: Mark Lee <mark.lee.phd at gmail.com>
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Subject: [nafex] Diospyros lotus

Over 20 years ago I grew a Diospyros lotus tree from seed. This is a
persimmon species often used for rootstock for the more common
persimmon species, like Diospyros kaki. D. lotus is also known as date
lote. Like other Diospyros species, date lote trees are either male or
female. My seedling turned out to be male. I have a second date lote
tree that I planted 7 years ago. I can't remember where that tree came
from. I have lost track. I was thinking that this second tree was just
a clone of the first one, from a sprout that sprang up near the base
of the first one. To my surprise, I found yesterday that the second
tree has female flowers. The male tree is growing in the shade, the
female is in the sun. Could it be that the clone changed from male to

Another question: How can I graft on the persimmon? Every attempt I
have made to graft date lote end up dying. I want to get the two trees
near each other so I can get fruit in my lifetime. Maybe I should hand

-Mark Lee, Seattle
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