[NAFEX] evans-bali cherry

Ernest Plutko ernestplutko at wiktel.com
Sun Jul 24 17:42:30 EDT 2011


I think the big reason trees are tissue cultured is to quickly    
produce a large number of small plants in a small space without the
bother and expense of planting them outside.  This is what I learned
in Israel.

---- Original Message ----
From: dwoodard at becon.org
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:08:22 -0400

>Ernest, Bill Mackentley makes it pretty clear in his catalogue
>listing
>
>http://www.sln.potsdam.ny.us
>
>that "Bali" is Evans.
>
>He also states that his Bali trees as sold are considerably smaller
>than 
>his other "pie cherries," which sounds to me as if they are grown
>from 
>tissue cultured plants while his others are grafted.
>
>To Steve:
>
>Articles which can be found on the internet state that Evans/Bali
>does 
>best on the Canadian Prairies on soil which is "not too fertile" and 
>there are suggestions that on rich moist soil it may not be as 
>cold-hardy. If you are interested, search on "Evans cherry."
>
>There are also statements that many attempts have been made to grow 
>seedlings of Evans and that they are generally inferior in both
>quality 
>and cold-hardiness. The reason that Evans was only grown from suckers
>
>until tissue culture was commercialized is apparently that there was
>no 
>conveniently available rootstock that was hardy enough and reliably 
>compatible.
>
>Doug Woodard
>St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
>On 7/24/2011 4:09 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
>> Maybe he took the tissue from an Evans cherry tree which came from
>> Canada.  There seems to be some confusion over this cherry.
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: sdw12986 at aol.com
>> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] evans-bali cherry
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:50:32 -0400
>>
>>> Actually, it's the other way around. The name Bali came from Bill
>>> Mackentley at St Lawrence Nurseries. He sold them only as tissue
>>> cultured trees. I talked him into selling me one the year before
>they
>>>
>>> were big enough to list in his catalog. I watched Bill dig it up
>>> myself
>>> and we walked back to the building with him cupping the roots in
>his
>>> hands until he could wrap it properly.
>>> My tree grew well. When it got big enough to flower I found that
>most
>>> of
>>> the flower buds were dead every spring. I never got more than a
>hand
>>> full of cherries a year. Also it would put out a foot (more or
>less)
>>> of
>>> new growth full of new buds. In the spring all the buds would be
>dead
>>>
>>> except the terminal buds and a few scattered flower buds. Lots of
>>> long
>>> skinny branches with new growth on the tips only. One August, the
>>> leaved
>>> turned yellow and fell a good month early. It was dead. This is
>>> EXACTLY
>>> how a previous North Star cherry behaved, dying a couple of years
>>> before
>>> I planted the Bali. Both died after the trunk was about 4 inches
>in
>>> diameter.
>>> I sometimes wonder if the North Star left some disease in the soil
>>> and
>>> maybe I should try a Bali again in a different location.
>>> Mine never produced a single sucker. I would have assumed that the
>>> ones
>>> that suckered were NOT own rooted. Maybe not.
>>>
>>> Steve..... cold zone 4 in the central Adirondacks
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/24/2011 12:51 PM, Ernest Plutko wrote:
>>>> Are the suckers from the grafted root?  I understand Bali is
>>> grafted
>>>> and Evans are the original non-grafted trees.  I never had a
>>> sucker.
>>>> Maybe I can buy a few sucker from you?  The cherries are very
>good
>>>> eating.
>
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