[NAFEX] Elaeagnus propagation & goumi/autumn olive

John S swim_at_svc at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 30 18:39:57 EST 2011

I understand that the Elaeagnus can be propagated by rooting stem cuttings, but have not had success with that myself.  I think the percentage of cuttings that would root would not be very high, due, in part, to the wood being very hard.  I intend to experiment more with Autumn Olives propagation using green wood cuttings this year.

I'm hoping to graft some goumi to autumn olive rootstock at some point.  Seedlings are easy to come by and I'm going to try top working as well.

Thanks to all that commented - it was helpful.  

--- On Sun, 1/30/11, Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org> wrote:

From: Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] MisIdentification: Goumi vs. Autum Olive
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 1:15 PM

That's a bummer as I just ordered two goumis from Raintree late last fall!!  I do have a spring-fruiting goumi that I got from One Green World about 4 years ago, for what that's worth....  (And it is delicious, by the way--one of my favorite fruits!)  I'm growing it in NE Oklahoma and I have to keep it watered here, but it's doing OK.  It put on a lot of new growth last year, despite a drought.  I think it would do better if I moved it somewhere that it would get some afternoon shade.  I hope to propagate it this year (for my own use)--does anyone know offhand the best way and time to do that?

On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:24 AM, John S wrote:
 I've twice now planted so-called goumis from reputable North Wast mail-order nurseries, grown them out and upon fruiting, discovered them to be fall fruiting Autumn Olives instead of the spring fruiting Goumis.  It is easy to tell the difference from the appearance and timing of the fruit.

Today I received the 2011 print catalog from Raintree and found them using a picture of Autumn Olives for Goumis and the description indicating that goumis fruit in August instead of the correct timing of "spring".  I go on-line and find that the on-line picture of goumi is, instead, a picture of red fruited Cornelian Cherry.

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