[nafex ibiblio list] Horne Creek Farm

Chris Garriss cgarriss at garriss.net
Thu Dec 29 20:20:38 EST 2011


Thanks for the update, the last time I was up there was quite some time
ago.  At that time Lee was still very much engaged with the orchard.  I'm
really happy to learn that it is not only continuing, but in good hands.
 The first time I went up there I had to ask several of the staff (I don't
know if they were employees, volunteers, etc. but were very helpful) where
the orchard was.  Thinking back, I had no idea it had been so long since
I'd been up - it has probably been 7 years or so.  The first time I went
was because Lee told me about it, and trees were still being planted.  I'll
have to go back to look around - after that long it will be a whole new
place.  Something to look forward to in the spring!

Thanks again, I don't know Jason but I wish he and all of Horne Creek well.
 Especially these days when funds for just about everything that is part of
the state are being cut.

Chris

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:03 PM, nottke1 <nottke1 at earthlink.net> wrote:

> For those of you not familiar with the Horne Creek Farm Historic Site west
> of Winston-Salem, NC, see http://www.nchistoricsites.org/horne/horne.htm
>
> The orchard is on the Horne Creek Farm property and is being very well
> managed by Jason Bowen.  I have copied Jason on this email in case you wish
> to contact him.  He has excellent records on all the apple varieties in the
> orchard.  They hope to set up a roadside stand in the next year or two to
> sell apples.  The orchard is open to the public Tuesday through Saturday
> and it is FREE.
>
> Jim Nottke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Chris Garriss <cgarriss at garriss.net>
> >Sent: Dec 29, 2011 4:56 PM
> >To: nafex ibiblio mailing list <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: Re: [nafex ibiblio list] Fwd: Please Help Us Preserve Historic
>      Apple Varieties
> >
> >I think most of you "apple people" know Lee Calhoun. Several years ago
> >(actually more than that) Lee supplied hundreds of southern heirloom apple
> >trees he grafted from his orchard to a North Carolina historic site:
>  Horne
> >Creek Farm (http://www.nchistoricsites.org/horne/horne.htm  An article
> >about the apple orchard is at
> >
> http://mtairynews.com/bookmark/14651910-Expert-shares-knowledge-about-8216-Old-Southern-Apples-8217-at-Horne-Creek
> >).
> > The orchard is not well known, and is not located at the main site.  But
> >it is, or at least was, open to the public.  The idea was to preserve the
> >apples, some of which I don't think existed  outside of Lee's orchard.
>  I'm
> >not sure, but at one time I'd heard that they eventually would be able to
> >supply small quantities of scions.
> >
> >This is a "sort of" governmental site:  there is a deer proof fence around
> >the orchard, which I believe the state paid for as well as provided the
> >land; Lee donated his time and the trees.  And, used to go there annually
> >to prune the trees.  Some of the apples are indeed not endangered, others
> >are or used to be.  But they represent a small, localized slice of the
> >whole.
> >
> >And, I worry about what might happen to Lee's collection.  While I
> >sincerely hope he is around for a long, long time the reality is that he
> is
> >not young.  I have no idea what arrangements might have been made
> regarding
> >his collection. As recently as a year ago he was still collecting, finding
> >trees he had looked for over a very long period of time, he published a
> >second edition of his book recently.
> >
> >But as you say there do not appear to be comprehensive and verified
> >germplasm repositories in many countries, nor an interest on the
> >governmental level.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:52 PM, <david.maxwell at dal.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This raises a larger issue.  There are government-sponsored germplasm
> >> repositories in most
> >> countries, (some better than others), whose mission is precisely this.
> >>  Where does support
> >> from the public purse end and the responsibility of private afficionados
> >> take up?  (Just
> >> parethetically, I don't think there is any risk of Ben Davis,
> Gravenstein,
> >> or Fameuse (Snow)
> >> being lost, and they would hardly rate as either "rarest" or "most
> >> valuable" apple varieties, in
> >> my opinion.  But then I am getting to be an old curmudgeon.)  I am much
> >> more concerned by
> >> what might happen to the collections maintained by people like Nick
> >> Bottner, which truly are
> >> unique and valuable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Begin forwarded message:
> >> >
> >> > From: Diane at Seed Savers Exchange <membership at seedsavers.org>
> >> > Date: December 28, 2011 11:59:37 AM PST
> >> > Subject: Please Help Us Preserve Historic Apple Varieties
> >> > Reply-To: Diane at Seed Savers Exchange <membership at seedsavers.org>
> >> >
> >> > Help us protect 350 of our country's rarest and most valuable apple
> >> varieties.
> >> > Have you considered Seed Savers Exchange for your year-end donations?
> We
> >> thank you for your membership and continued support!
> >> >
> >> > In October, Seed Savers Exchange broke ground on an expansion of our
> >> > Historic Apple Orchard that will help us protect over 350 of our
> >> > country's rarest and most valuableapple varieties. Like all of our
> >> > preservation efforts here at Heritage Farm, we are depending on your
> >> > generous support to make this project a reality.
> >> >
> >>
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