[nafex ibiblio list] [NAFEX] facebook - likes - fans

Road's End Farm organic87 at frontiernet.net
Sun Dec 18 09:38:37 EST 2011

It may be unavoidable, but I'm concerned about NAFEX fragmenting into  
a batch of separate groups, with little or no communication among them.

I don't think it's only because of my age that I'm not interested in  
Facebook. I know a number of people under 40 who don't want to go  
there either; in part because of the hassle involved in frequently  
changing rules, privacy options, etc.

I have the uneasy feeling that we're going to wind up with some of the  
NAFEX conversation on Facebook; some of it on Google+; some of it on  
whatever social network comes along next (and then on whatever one  
comes along after that, etc.); some of it on the forums; and some of  
it on this list; while the fruit growers still not online, whether  
because of connectivity problems or religious reasons, get dropped out  
of the conversation entirely, to both their detriment and ours.

I don't see any way to prevent that happening. But I'm not happy about  

-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale

On Dec 18, 2011, at 8:32 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote:

> Facebook for NAFEX is a wonderful addition. The majority of friends I
> have under 40 or so use FB everyday to communicate and share
> information.  I've posted endless articles, photos, websites about
> fruit, organics, winemaking, permaculture which get shared endlessly.
> They become viral and propagate themselves with no effort on the part
> of the original poster.
> I get the sense that like farming, the average age of a NAFEXer is
> creeping northward & this is one of the most logical ways to invite
> young folks into the fold in a medium that is already second nature to
> them.
> And for me just being able to post photos of my plantings, get IDs of
> mystery plants, & virtually tour other folks plantings is worth its
> price in gold.
> Also, since FB has built in chat and video conferencing, many, many
> people in my circles use this to instantly find out and get info,
> altho I should confess that often I've had a question posted to the
> listserve here often answered in a matter of minutes.
> Also Google Plus has some advantages over Facebook and starting to see
> a lot of the permaculture movement folks embrace that.  At some point
> Facebook & Google Plus will most likely be interchangeable from a user
> standpoint, but it's good to know the options out there.
> Information wants to be free.
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Richard MURPHY  
> <murphman108 at msn.com> wrote:
>> Dear Squad;
>> I've also learned a ton from Nafex, and shared a ton, too.
>> I'm all for exploring new ideas that will forward the cause,  
>> but........
>> As an engineering manager, I've always given my guys 'new ideas' a  
>> simple test before they are implemented.
>> 1.     Does this idea make the product work better?
>> 2.     Does this idea reduce the cost of the product?
>> Failure to answer 'YES' to either of these questions 'freezes' the  
>> new idea until a 'YES' appears.
>> So I ask all of you; What does 'Facebook' / Blogs bring to the  
>> Nafex table?
>> Does it pass the 'new idea' test?
>> Guys?
>> Murph
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