[NAFEX] Elderberries - sources

Lori Rizzo larizzo at charter.net
Sat Apr 2 15:35:37 EDT 2011

I saved a couple of emails and had a reference to St. Lawrence Nursery, and
the email below.

Lori Rizzo, RN BSN MBA
Health Care Quality & Process Improvement
Pet Training & Behavior Counseling
Rizzo Hollow Heirloom Plants & Unusual Edibles
Maryville, TN  USDA Zone 7b
larizzo at charter.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Woodard
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:28 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elders

A Canadian source for S. canadensis is


Service is good, but order early.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

jelie at new.rr.com wrote:
> Caren, There are some nice varieties of elders out there.  The European
varieties (sambucus nigra) and the American varieties (sambucus nigra var.
canadensis) both have some outstanding cultivars.  I would think that both
would be readily available to you in QC.  
> Some American varieties:  Nova, Johns, Adam, and York 
> The European varieties are more numerous and varied:  Goldbeere (gold
colored fruit, Samdal (of Danish origin), Korsor, Alesso, Black Beauty (dark
leaves with typical structure, pink flowers), Black Lace(dark lacey foliage
with pink flowers), Laciniata (Green lacey leaved), variegated, and
> Here is a pdf file on elderberries from New York state:
> http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pubs/fls/OCRPDF/91.pdf
> I am in the Green Bay, Wisconsin area which is on the border for zones 4
and 5.  So far, the only problems I have had with them are a few cane
borers.  Mine are quite productive.  My wife and I haven't used the flowers
for anything but love the berries for syrup and jelly.  Propagation by
cuttings in the spring has been pretty easy.
> Best of luck,
> Jim Elie
> Green Bay WI
> zone 4/5
> ---- Caren Kirk <quirky at videotron.ca> wrote: 
>> I just returned from a trip back home to the UK where I totally overdosed
on Elderflower EVERYTHING (cordial, syrup, even eldeerflower cheesecake). I
literally couldn't get enough, everywhere we went someone was getting me to
taste their homemade products.
>> I've always been a fan of elderberry juice, so now I am convinced that I
want to try planting them here to see if I can reap the benefits of both the
flowers and the berries.
>> I thought I had an elder growing wild in the wet area at the back of my
lot, which I had never really investigated much . It certainly has very
similar flowers, however their scent seems nothing like that delicious
fragrance of the flowers I've been enjoying in the UK. However I may have
missed their peak at the beginning of the season. The shrub is about 6 to
7ft very "leggy" and growing in a very wet site under other taller trees.
Not sure if it bears black berries but if so these don't seem to be very
popular with the birds.
>> Does anybody have experience with elders for their flowers or berries?
Could you help me in identifying my plant? Could anyone suggest which elders
might be good for flower and fruit production for zone 3/ 4 (for example is
Sambucus Canadiensis OK)?
>> Any advice gratefully appreciated.
>> Caren Kirk
>> St. Jerome, QC
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