[NAFEX] Ernest's Evans cherries
nave1 at comcast.net
Mon Jun 21 20:31:40 EDT 2010
Well, I expect I am mistaken about them coming in true from seed. I am
a bit of a novice in this field.
Still, it seemed odd to graft a hardy tree onto a not-so-hardy root
stock. The idea that this is to prevent suckering seems reasonable.
I'm near St. Paul, Minnesota.
Douglas Woodard wrote:
> Dan, what you have heard does not agree with what I have heard from a
> very well-informed person, which is that Evans does not come true from
> seed and that Evans seedlings are not even cold-hardy at Edmonton. See
> What is the source of your information, and where are you?
> Growing sour cherries on their own roots is apparently not that easy,
> and tissue culture is the favoured way. Evidently some nurseries prefer
> to graft, perhaps to have the whole process under their own control.
> You may be interested in the articles linked at
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> Dan Nave wrote:
>> Why would one bother to graft Evans since it it is hearty on it's own
>> roots and supposedly grows true from seed?...
>> Douglas Woodard wrote:
>>> Ernest, grafted trees from commercial sources would probably be grafted
>>> on Mazzard or Mahaleb. If I remember rightly you are in a particularly
>>> cold area of northern Minnesota. I would expect your temperatures to
>>> damage (in a warm winter unless with heavy snow cover) or kill either
>>> Mazzard or Mahaleb. Mahaleb is fussy about good drainage, likes a coarse
>>> subsoil. Any hardy rootstock readily available cheap to a comercial
>>> nursery is likely to suffer from compatibility problems. The only
>>> rootstock I can think of that *might* suit is Prunus X Dropmoreana,
>>> Frank Skinner's creation. Forty years ago East Malling did some work
>>> with it as a stock for sweet cherries, and from what I recall reading,
>>> some clones of it were compatible with sweets and some were not.
>>> If your sources were what I would consider fully competent and
>>> honourable, they would have told you what rootstock they were using -
>>> unless maybe they were afraid their competition would find out about it.
>>> This kind of competitive pressure is one of the curses of the nursry
>>> business. It's extremely hard to know if your supplier is understandably
>>> secretive, or crooked or irresponsible.
>>> Doug Woodard
>>> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>>> Ernest Plutko wrote:
>>>> "Before" means before I buried grafts. I was not doing a research
>>>> study. I was just trying to get trees to live through winters. I
>>>> bought trees from several sources. Local and mail-order. It is
>>>> possible burying graft is just protecting graft from winter cold.
>>>> This fall I will probe around buried trunks to see if roots have
>>>> grown from Evans trunks. I'll look up Evans own-root sources and let
>>>> you know.
>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>> From: murphman108 at msn.com
>>>> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Ernest's Evans cherries
>>>> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:14:46 +0000
>>>>> Hello Ernest;
>>>>> I am interested in your Evans story. The trees that you buried the
>>>>> graft union were better 'than before'. What does 'than before' mean?
>>>>> Did you plant some at the same time from the same batch without
>>>>> burying the graft? Same plant source? This is a decent finding on
>>>>> your part. Please elaborate. Also, who is the 'own root' Evans cherry
>>>>> tree source?
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