[NAFEX] OT: squirells, coytes and wolves, oh my.

Steve sdw12986 at aol.com
Mon Sep 7 10:51:29 EDT 2009

So true! The same week the daily newspaper ran the story about bear 
relocation in the Adirondacks, our little town weekly paper had a story 
about coyotes. It said that many people have seen them around town and 
there is a rash of disappearing cats and small dogs. My wife is afraid 
to let our cat go out after dark. If we had the wolves, this wouldn't be 
a problem. People just can't get over the image of the "big bad wolf".


Kevin Moore wrote:
> I agree with Lucky here. Squirrels are in no way, shape or form in any 
> danger of dying out any time soon. The best place for them is in a stew 
> pot. As far as re-introductions of wildlife, wolves are a very good 
> idea. If you don't have wolves, you end up with coyotes. Personally, I 
> think wolves are far less dangerous to domestic animals and are easily 
> dissuaded by a good stock dog. Coyotes, on the other hand, will attack 
> almost any livestock smaller than a cow, and aren't particularly 
> impressed by the presence of a dog.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steve <sdw12986 at aol.com>
> *To:* North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2009 4:16:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NAFEX] offending squirrels in apricots
> Dr. Lucky Pittman wrote:
>  > Jay,
>  > I'm sure you're getting a warm, fuzzy feeling thinking that you've 
> removed
>  > the 'offending' squirrels, yet not harmed them in any significant manner,
>  > but years of study indicates otherwise.  Wildlife biologists and various
>  > state departments of fish & wildlife have, for years, tried to educated
>  > people to the cold hard facts that relocation of wildlife - particularly
>  > non-threatened species, like squirrels, raccoons, deer, etc., is not a
>  > humane act - for the relocated animal, or for the established population
>  > you've now introduced the 'relocated' animal into - and it's actually
>  > illegal to do this in some states. 
>  > Do a search for 'wildlife relocation', and you'll find a wealth of info.
>>  Here's one for starters. 
> http://icwdm.org/wildlife/euthanasia/relocation.asp
>  >
>  > Far better to rapidly dispatch the offending squirrels, etc., than to
>  > 'relocate' them.
>  > I can provide some tasty squirrel recipes, if desired.
>  >
>  > Lucky Pittman
> Just some comments, not trying to prove one point or the other.
> I was reading the newspaper last evening and there was a article about
> nascence bears being a bigger problem this year, compared to past years.
> The local DEC's way of handling this is to live trap the bears, put a
> tag in their ear and relocate them away from town. If a tagged bear gets
> into trouble a 2nd time, they kill it.
> Also, they like to reintroduce species here. Bringing in Lynx was an
> utter failure. Bringing in turkeys and eagles was a booming success.
> They wanted to try wolves but public opinion (mostly deer hunters who
> didn't want the competition) made them abandon the plan. I know that
> reintroduction is different from relocation because there is no
> established population to blend in with.
> Steve in the Adirondacks

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