[NAFEX] Fruit day U of Idaho Parma

Lon J. Rombough lonrom at hevanet.com
Fri Sep 4 01:34:43 EDT 2009

Alborz is a sport of the commercial variety Flame Seedless.  It's a bit  
earlier and colors better.
Ralli is a sport of a Sunworld variety.  Don't let them catch you with  
it.   They are even using DNA testing to prosecute unlicensed growers  
of their varieties, and Ralli is covered by the contracts they use.
NY 47616  ("Shelly") is one Cornell withdrew from testing because as  
the name suggests, it shells off the clusters very badly.  Tastes  
great, but some years you can shake it off the vine with a stiff  
breeze.  NY 65.479.1 was a blue seedless,  one of Cornell's old  
selections they never released.  Too cold tender, among other things.   
The seedless muscat NY 65.483.2 has good muscat flavor, but the berries  
are too small and the clusters are so compact that any attempt to  
increase the berry size leads to cracking and splitting of the fruit.
Rombough Seedless was released more or less by accident, but I don't  
mind as the patent fees would have been more than it might earn anyway.

-Lon Rombough
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On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Naomi Counides wrote:

Today was the Fruit Field day at the Parma extension of the U of  
Idaho.  The facility and the program is under considerable threat of  
being shut down because U of I has to cut 3.2 million from their budget  
and cutting Parma would “save $600,000.   This is a place with over 20  
years working on this site.  The irrigation system is amazing.. and the  
trees and vines on it even more so.

There was some major discussion of table grapes in Idaho.  This is  
really a coming thing seemingly.  We have hot days and cool nights.  It  
is basically dry here.  Nice for raising grapes.  And I tasted a lot of  
them.  Unfortunately my notes stink. Now since I am not a commercial  
grower I tasted looking for interesting flavor.. not just sugar water  
balls.  These are names I wrote down so I think that means I liked them  
though I no longer have any detail on flavor or texture.  Alborz  
(crunchy) This is one I already have planted thanks to Ron Mann who is  
in cahoots with Parma and is a friend who lives up the road and has  
pimped fruit trees and now grapes to me for years. Anahita also called  
Ralli is another I tasted and like and I already have planted. Ron  
Mann’s grape Sweet Shelly (NY47616), named after his wife was there and  
quite nice. Looked like a blueberry and maybe tasted a bit like one.   
Here it can be useful to have a grape that tastes like a blueberry.  We  
have alkali soil and blueberries are tricky to grow but grapes are  
easy.  I saw a green seedless by Ron L there.  I really liked NY  
65.0479.1.  I would like to know more about that one and I would like  
to plant it. I seem to have missed Ny65.483.2 but that one sounds very  
interesting also.  I like Muscat flavor.  And yes those are all  
seedless because my family is fussy about seeds and sometimes I make  


By the time I got to the tables of peaches there was not much left to  
taste and I was getting pretty full even going one grape at a time.   
There were LOTS!!!  And there were plums, pluots, nectarines, apples  
Mulberries.  Very interesting presentation on size and soluables and  
how to do what by use of water and nutrients to apples.  BTW this  
irrigation system uses 60% less water than the sprinkler emitters.  It  
is 4 inches underground 1 foot either side of the tree or vine.  They  
do a really interesting thing watering one side of the apple tree fully  
for 2 weeks and starving the other side then alternating to increase  

Saw figs, jujube, mulberry, Asian persimmon, Asian pears, quince,  
walnuts and almonds.  Oh and the way they are now growing the grapes is  
vey neat and shady to walk under.  I forget which varieties but they  
had huge bunches of grapes.  They showed a 9 pounder but said they had  
one that went 11 pounds.  Gorgeous.





"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which  
differ from the prejudices of their social environment.  Most people  
are even incapable of forming such opinions."
   ..... Albert Einstein 


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