[NAFEX] weirdly useless soil

Ginda Fisher list at ginda.us
Wed Sep 2 10:08:58 EDT 2009

I wrote to them this morning and told them about the problem, speculating about herbicide.  It seems extremely unlikely to be a disease problem unless, as you say, it's specifically a soil-born disease of basil that the soil came pre-contaminated with.  I'll report back when I get their response.

-- GindaRoad's End Farm wrote:

On the other hand, maybe, in all innocence, they used hay or straw in

their mix that they didn't know was contaminated with long-lasting

herbicide. Or, if it includes ocean products, maybe there was a spill

in the area these were harvested from that they didn't know about; in

which case it could be almost anything.

I would really hesitate to spread it anywhere until you know what is

wrong. Can you just set the pot aside somewhere and contact the

company? If it's a good company, they would probably appreciate

hearing about problems. You could also try googling their name to see

if any other complaints or relevant news stories turn up.

You could also try growing other things in the pot to see what will

and will not grow -- it's unlikely that a lot of different crops would

all have virus problems, though some people have had trouble with

basil as well as with tomatoes this year (it's a different disease,

but there is disease going around through both crops; though fungal,

not bacterial.) It also seems unlikely to me, if it's a disease

problem, that the diseases wouldn't have spread to the plants in your

other pots; though I suppose it could be something only that only

travels through the soil.


Finger Lakes NY; zone 5 mostly</smaller>

On Sep 2, 2009, at 6:02 AM, ghg3 at heirloomorchardist.com wrote:


<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller>I'm a New Englander,

and I think I recall hearing about that Coast of Maine stuff

advertised on the radio.  It's a compost mix isn't it?  Made with

local organics and shellfish waste

etc....</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller>[ . . . ]</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller>I think you are right

on the money with your virus theory.  The Coast of Maine mix could

have had a lot of wilt in it.  I'd just dump the stuff where it won't

be mixed with compost that I'm apt to use for a few years.  Or maybe

you can distribute it under some rhododendrons...or other woody shrubs.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller>George Gifford</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> --------

Original Message --------</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> Subject: [NAFEX]

weirdly useless soil</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> From: Ginda Fisher 

Date: Wed, September 02, 2009 12:29 am</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller>[ . . .

]</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> this spring, when I bought a big new

pot for one more tomato</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> plant, I bought a

bag of expensive "Coast of Maine" soil to fill it.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> I have 4 big pots,

each with one tomato plant and some smaller stuff.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> (3 have basil, 1 has

a seedling currant I decided to try to grow out,</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> and one also has an

alpine strawberry that came from I know not where,</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> possibly it's a

feral seedling that I didn't weed out.) The tomato in</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> the new one looks

horrible. It lost all but one or two leaves, and it</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> just a 2.5' stalk. I

don't think it ever flowered.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> I attributed the

tomato's failure to viruses and whatnot - it's some</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> random thing

advertised as being from Russia, and didn't claim to be</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> resistant to

anything. (The 4 tomatoes are each different</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> cultivars.) But I

just noticed that the basil in the pot has also</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> failed to grow. Yes,

the cold rainy summer wasn't kind to basil, but</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> the basil in the

other two pots is 2 feet tall and has gone to seed,</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> and the basil in

this pot is only a bit larger than when I planted it.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> Any theories?</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> I'm also wondering

what to do with a giant pot of bad soil. I don't</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> really want to dump

it on the mulch pile, as I've started to mine that</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> for loam. I suppose

I could dump it next to the mulch pile, where a</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param><x-tad-smaller> pile of dirt won't

be an eyesore.</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>



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