[NAFEX] syrups.

Stephen Sadler Docshiva at Docshiva.org
Mon Oct 12 01:11:46 EDT 2009

Thanks, Richard!


7:1 isn’t a bad reduction ratio.  I’ve seen small-scale sugarcane-juice squeezers – look like clothes mangles.  I can’t see making a gallon! More like a cup, perhaps.  What do you do with your syrup?


~ Stephen


From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Harrison
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:18 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] syrups.



    I grow 2 acres of sugarcane in North Florida and make syrup----100% sugarcane syrup. It's expensive to make. A heavy mill is needed to efficiently press the juice from the stalks and then cookware to process the juice into syrup can add expense if making more than a gallon of syrup at a time. The processing rate is about 7 gallons of juice to 1 gallon of syrup, on average.


--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Stephen Sadler <Docshiva at Docshiva.org> wrote:

From: Stephen Sadler <Docshiva at Docshiva.org>
Subject: [NAFEX] syrups.
To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 12:54 AM

Try your yellow label on biscuits, cornbread, or fritters (esp. corn).   You can try it in a pecan pie following the recipe at the Golden Eagle site.  Most of the recipes there are ones I like fine with straight cane syrup.  I’ve never tried them with Golden Eagle/Yellow Label.  I think I’d want some molasses for I little bite.  

Though for a couple years I’ve used Whey Low sugar in about everything I’d normally use sugar or any syrup in – helps keep the glycemic index and blood sugar in check.  I make a syrup with that and blend it 50/50 with real maple.  Must have real maple.  

Almost must have cane syrup, and I’d forgotten about corn/cane/honey blend syrups until the beginning of this thread.  I have a thought to grow some ribbon cane and see if I can make a syrup.  Yes, a foolish endeavor, homemade cane syrup – but the plants are pretty, and I’ve done such efforts before.  For some reason I’m curious about small-scale food from scratch, whether it’s baking with flour from gathered oats, making apple juice concentrate (think, juice, think!), cheeses, growing sesame, broom corn…   Made more sense when I had a bit of land to play with.  On this suburban lot, though, I want to again do such things.  It’s fun for me, and lets my 6-year-old see where many foods come from and how they get from seed to dinner table.  My 23-year-old had the same lessons, and it’s a pleasant revisitation.  I also like knowing the such knowledge rests in my older girl’s brain, and maybe bits of this connection to land and reality spill over to the grandchildren.   


~ Stephen


From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Naomi Counides
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:40 PM
To: 'North American Fruit Explorers'
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cross cultural dislikes; Maple? Blech!


Now I really like marmalade on peanut butter.  Livens up the flavor IMO.  Now I do make my own marmalade with lots and lots of peelings. And peanut butter with garlic, soy sauce and other stuff is great on noodles. I like real maple syrup (grade b) but I am certainly going to look for Golden Eagle syrup after your description. I have some Alga on the shelf but was not actually sure what to do with it.  And then I do have honey of several varieties.  


Speaking of honey.. I bottled my plum mead yesterday.  Seemed okay but too sharp on the alcohol.  A year maturing will fix that.  I used Beauty Plums.  If I use those again I will put in a few cinnamon sticks.. the flavor needs some wake up.  The Mirabelle mead I made last year had more character.



"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment.  Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." 
 ..... Albert Einstein


From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Lucky Pittman
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:17 PM
To: 'North American Fruit Explorers'
Subject: [NAFEX] Cross cultural dislikes; Maple? Blech!



It’s not just Europeans.

I find maple syrup – the real thing, as well as maple-flavored syrup – or any thing maple-flavored, including bacon(what a blasphemy!  It’s supposed to be HICKORY smoked!) – to be disgusting and quite off-putting from a taste perspective.


Growing up in UCLA (upper corner of lower Alabama) in the ‘50s/’60s, ‘syrup’ - at least in my family, was either cane syrup(AlaGa or Cane Patch), corn syrup(dark Karo), or my (still)favorite, Golden Eagle syrup(Yellow Label is a close second, if you can’t find Golden Eagle), which is a mixture of corn syrup, cane syrup, and honey.  THICK and sweet – makes the very best pecan/hickory pies in the world, and doesn’t make your pancakes/waffles  a soggy, sodden mess, like that nasty maple/maple-flavored ‘pancake’ syrup.

Log Cabin or Aunt Jemimah?  Doesn’t matter to me – if those are my choices, I’ll do without.


Was discussing this thread with a co-worker yesterday, and she brought up the ‘peanut butter’ angle  and the apparent disgust Brits have for it – but, I’d have to think that if my ‘jelly’ choice was orange marmalade, I might not care for a PB&J sandwich either.


Lucky Pittman

Son of the South


In my experience, the North American food that has gotten the strongest reaction from European visitors is maple syrup---they (with a few exceptions) consider it disgusting--gaggingly vile.  One might like to think that Aunt Jemimah were to blame, but I only use the real stuff and the reaction  has been the same.


Steve Herje

USDA  zone 3

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