[NAFEX] Mirabelle

Douglas Woodard dwoodard at becon.org
Thu Nov 19 20:01:03 EST 2009

Claude, how does the Quebec Damas compare with Mount Royal for 

Is the Damas one clone, a group of clones or a seedling line?

I think one should be careful of the rootstocks for hardy plums. The 
seedling Myrobalans that used to be used in the nursery trade in 
Southern Ontario were not reliably hardy in zone 6a without heavy snow 
cover. Yet, according to "Trees and Shrubs of the Dominion Arboretum" 
the Arboretum had (perhaps still has) a strain of Prunus cersifera 
(Myrobalan) which was hardy at Ottawa.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


Claude Jolicoeur wrote:
> A 13:43 09.11.18 -0500, vous avez écrit :
>> Claude wrote:
>> No they are not Mirabelles - they are either Early Golden or Shiro, both
>> are japanese plums, another species. Mirabelles are quite smaller than
>> that, and Reine-Claude are greener.
>> Claude, thanks for the correction.  How small are Mirabelles? The plums I 
>> buy are usually not much bigger than an inch in diameter.
> My Mirabelle usually get to 25 mm diameter avereage. These yellow jap plums
> are bigger - I would guess 30 to 35 mm dia. We have them here in Quebec
> also and they are quite good. They are not hardy here however, they need at
> least zone 5. I had an Early Golden in my orchard, and there was a Shiro on
> my father's property - both trees died. They do very well in southern Ontario.
> If you want, I could probably send you a root sucker of my mirabelle next
> May. Be warned however that they take a long time before they start to
> produce - mine took 15 years... In comparison, my Mont-Royal, which is
> grafted, took 7 years. The Mont-Royal is also a more reliable and heavier
> cropper, and hardier also.
> Claude

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