[NAFEX] Hardy Prunus, was Re: Staking of immature fruit trees

Caren Kirk quirky at videotron.ca
Mon Nov 16 14:12:06 EST 2009

Thanks Richard and Doug for your inputs.

Interesting Richard that you suspect deydration had a part in killing your 
Reliance, we had a freakishly warm and dry April and I think it played a 
part in doing in my Reliance ( I am ( or should I say was) way to lazy to 
water in April!).

Doug thanks for the advice, I  adore apricots but seem to rememebr someone 
on NAFEX commenting that I could probably plant one up here but I would 
never get fruit, so I haven't been brave enough to try one, especially after 
this spring's losses. One mustn't give up but one does need the cash to keep 

As for plums, I can't wait to try fresh ripe plums off my own Mirabelle that 
I planted this spring.  OK, it's got to survive ( it should be hardy 
enough), and will take a few years to fruit I know, but one must have hope!

Fruit optimists of the North unite!

Caren (Ag Can 4b)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Woodard" <dwoodard at becon.org>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Hardy Prunus, was Re: Staking of immature fruit trees

> Those in Zone 4 who really like peaches and are on well-drained sandy
> soil might want to see if they like the mandschurica/armeniaca cross
> prairie-hardy apricots, like Westcot and Morden 604. They might only get
> a crop 2 years out of 5 but that's better than nothing, and they are a
> pretty tree.
> Those on heavier soil could try St. Julien A rootstocks if they have
> reliable heavy snow cover.
> Or they could experiment with the compatibility of Krikon Damson roots
> or interstems, or Yellow Egg (might be marginally hardy) interstems on
> hardy plum stocks. Pershore Yellow Egg is considered compatible with
> apricot in Britain, and I presume that the North American Yellow Eggs
> are related, though that is certainly not conclusive.
> And, if you haven't considered quality plums and you can handle black
> knot, you should think about plums, maybe start with Mount Royal (hardy
> to about Agriculture Canada zone 4a). Commercial plum growers, for
> respectable commercial reasons, insist on picking plums unripe. If you
> haven't eaten a properly ripened high-quality plum (and I expect that
> most beginning home growers haven't) you don't know what you're missing.
> The Minnesota station had Krikon Damsom (still popular in Sweden,
> possibly hardy to about 3b, at any rate a little hardier than Mount
> Royal) around 1950 and perhaps they still do. I think Agriculture Canada
> still has it in their collection.
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> Richard MURPHY wrote:
> [snip]
>> If anybody knows of a 'no-brainer' peach tree for zone 4, please
>> describe it !!
>> As for today, I know of no reliable type of peach for that climate.
> [snip]
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