[NAFEX] snow for storing scions

Sarah Kehler Ewing skkewing at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 15 13:51:55 EDT 2009

I am about 45 minutes South of Edmonton, Alberta in zone 3/3b.  If you find a good map you can find the tiny community of Pipestone just East of Pigeon Lake.

I agree that the damage appears after warm spells.  I think the damage probably occurs when we have thawing during the day when our temperature hits +10 to 20 C (50 - 68 F, I found my Metric conversion calculator so these are accurate temperature comparisons today!) and then refreezing at night. Or when we get those 30+ degree changes in less than 24 hours!  Perhaps the water doesn't have time to move back out of the cells into the interstitial spaces and then the cells rupture when the water they still contain freezes and expands.  Or perhaps the repeated movement in and out of the cell combined with dehydration/water loss to the air from the cells is not able to be replaced because the ground is still frozen and the sap isn't running.

I confess that my degrees are in human biology and that botany was merely an interesting required undergrad class!


--- On Sun, 3/15/09, R F Hollaus <hollaus at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: R F Hollaus <hollaus at comcast.net>
> Subject: snow for storing scions
> To: "Sarah Kehler Ewing" <skkewing at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 4:55 AM
> #yiv1091696207
> {height:100%;color:#000000;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;}Question
> about your post:
> Then I wonder if you know desication happens more
> at near freezing or at a liquid thawing state than a
> deep freeze.  Did you know that above freezing the
> cells rehydrate again from the liquid moisture between the
> cells and if the action of thawing adversley triggers some
> kind of activity that prevents the cell to dehydrate again?
> I wonder where you are.  We try things in Fairbanks
> Alaska and can always learn from others in similar
> situations.
> Rupert.


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