[NAFEX] leachy phosphorous

Road's End Farm organic87 at frontiernet.net
Thu Jun 25 09:42:43 EDT 2009

Actually, since
	a) it's an essential plant nutrient
	b) there are lots of plants in existence that need it
	c) during just about all of the evolutionary history of these plants 
humans were not applying P annually to supply them:
	therefore, it's got to be made available by some process not involving 
human intervention. It's possible, of course, that this process may be 
damaged/nonfunctional in some cultivated fields, especially if it 
involves bacteria or fungi.

I think I did post earlier about the capability of some plants to put P 
into forms usable by others.

Finger Lakes NY; zone 5 mostly

On Jun 20, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Richard Harrison wrote:

> My county agents office has always taught that P was rather immobile. 
> Now that doesn;t say anything about whether it is available for plant 
> uptake or not. If very immobile, I would question its availability to 
> plants to absorb it.
>                                               Richard
> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Alan Haigh  wrote:
>> From: Alan Haigh
>> Subject: [NAFEX] leachy phosphorous
>> To: nafex
>> Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 8:59 PM
>> Ok, the contradictions on this site to my understanding of 
>> phosphorous was starting to bug me.  I was beginning to think my 
>> memory was going so I went to my book shelf and grabbed Brady's "The 
>> Nature and Property of Soils" to look up phoshorus.  I quickly found 
>> this statement "When soluble forms (of phosphorous) such as those 
>> found in manures and fertilizers are added to soils they are fixed 
>> (bonded tightly to soil solids in a form generally unavailable to 
>> plants) or are changed to unavailable forms and in time react further 
>> to become highly insoluble forms".  He goes on to say that "phosphate 
>> is essentially an immobile nutrient".
>> Does anyone have some actual information that contradicts this, based 
>> on scientific understanding?  Or am I just not understanding what I'm 
>> reading?
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